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Impaired Reasoning - Should last week’s joint disqualify a pot smoker from driving today?
Reason ^ | June 28, 2006 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 07/02/2006 4:39:39 PM PDT by neverdem

Should last week’s joint disqualify a pot smoker from driving today?

A police officer pulls you over at a checkpoint and asks, "Have you been drinking?" Assuming he wants to know whether you have consumed alcohol in the last few hours, such that it might be affecting your ability to drive, you say no. "Not at all?" he asks. Well, you admit, you did have a beer the night before, whereupon he arrests you for driving under the influence.

If that scenario makes sense to you, you should have no problem with Michigan's new policy regarding driving and drug use. As recently interpreted by the state Supreme Court, Michigan law prohibits marijuana smokers from driving long after the drug's psychoactive effects have disappeared. A dozen states have similar policies, and federal drug officials think all of them should, which would in effect revoke or periodically suspend the driver's licenses of more than 25 million Americans.

Michigan law bars someone from driving "if the person has in his or her body any amount of a controlled substance listed in schedule 1," which includes marijuana, THC (marijuana's main active ingredient), and their "derivatives." So even before last week's decision by the Michigan Supreme Court, unimpaired drivers could be arrested with tiny, inconsequential traces of THC in their blood. In contrast with this "zero tolerance" rule, the legal cutoff for drinkers is a blood alcohol concentration of 0.08 percent.

The Michigan Supreme Court made the double standard worse by declaring that 11-carboxy-THC, a nonpsychoactive marijuana metabolite that can remain in a person's blood or urine for days or weeks, counts as a forbidden THC "derivative." The upshot is that many regular marijuana smokers can never legally drive in Michigan, whether they're intoxicated or not, while occasional smokers are barred from driving for days after each dose.

"It is irrelevant that an 'ordinary' marijuana smoker allegedly does not know that 11-carboxy-THC could last in his or her body for weeks," the court said. "It is also irrelevant that a person might not be able to drive long after any possible impairment from ingesting marijuana has worn off."

The four judges in the majority bent over backward to reach this bizarre conclusion. They cited several definitions of derivative that could be read to include 11-carboxy-THC, most of which also would render ubiquitous chemicals such as carbon dioxide "controlled substances," meaning that no one would be allowed to drive. They chose the one definition of derivative that avoided this absurd result while still allowing 11-carboxy-THC to be counted as a disqualifying blood contaminant.

The three dissenters noted that such a conclusion is contrary to the law's intent (to protect the public from impaired drivers) and inconsistent with state and federal criteria for Schedule I substances (which are supposed to be psychoactive chemicals or precursors to them). They also argued that the ruling results in an unconstitutionally vague law that invites arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement.

Given variations in metabolism and laboratory standards, marijuana smokers can never be sure whether they're legally permitted to drive in Michigan. The statute as interpreted by the Michigan Supreme Court therefore does not give people enough information to know when they are violating it--a basic requirement of due process and the rule of law.

Treating unimpaired drivers as if they were intoxicated is fundamentally unfair, and treating a drug metabolite with no pharmacological action like the drug itself makes no sense if the goal is preventing accidents. But the drug warriors who see Michigan as a model for the nation have other goals in mind.

Proponents (PDF link) of "zero tolerance" laws, such as drug testing consultant J. Michael Walsh and former federal drug czar Robert DuPont, see them as a way of deterring drug use and forcing users into "treatment." If the point is to make the penalties for smoking marijuana more severe, let's have a debate about that, instead of pretending the issue is traffic safety.

© Copyright 2006 by Creators Syndicate Inc.


Jacob Sullum is a senior editor at Reason. His weekly column is distributed by Creators Syndicate. If you'd like to see it in your local newspaper, please e-mail or call the editorial page editor today.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: blackrobedtyrants; driving; foryourowngood; govwatch; impaireddriving; judiciary; knowyourleroy; leroyknowshisrights; marijuana; michigan; mrleroybait; warondrugs; wod; woddiecrushonleroy; wodlist
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I wonder if Rimonabant, aka Acomplia, will be a false positive?
1 posted on 07/02/2006 4:39:41 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
The difference, of course, is that alcohol is a legal substance.

Now, if they want to make a test case someplace with a zero tolerance law and legal medicinal marijuana, that should prove interesting.

2 posted on 07/02/2006 4:41:49 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Without spoilers, do you think (blabberblabber) killed (mumblemumble) or not?)
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To: neverdem

When drunkards write our laws...


3 posted on 07/02/2006 4:43:18 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Medical Marijuana - ''But I don't WANNA arrest cancer patients....'')
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To: neverdem

They would have had to have had reason to pull you over in the first place. Of course the little bags you're frantically pushing under the seat might have the cop asking more pointed questions.


4 posted on 07/02/2006 4:48:41 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: neverdem
If impaired reasoning is a reason not to let someone drive, then how will NYT reporters get to work.

If impaired reasoning is a reason not to let someone drive, then how will democratic members of congress and RINOs get to work.

If impaired reasoning is a reason not to let someone drive, then...

5 posted on 07/02/2006 4:49:56 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Red is good)
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To: neverdem

We've been over this story once allready, but the drugheads keep bringing it back up, apparently.


6 posted on 07/02/2006 4:52:00 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Tanniker Smith

If the point is to make the penalties for smoking marijuana more severe, let's have a debate about that, instead of pretending the issue is traffic safety.


7 posted on 07/02/2006 4:52:41 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: neverdem
But, i think I can break any law I don't like if I enjoy the feeeeeeellllings it gives ME.
8 posted on 07/02/2006 4:53:07 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: neverdem
One Joint a Week? I don't think they were talking about these guys...
9 posted on 07/02/2006 5:01:02 PM PDT by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.)
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To: ThomasThomas
If impaired reasoning is a reason not to let someone drive, then how will democratic members of congress and RINOs get to work.

I wish people would just stop picking on that unfortunate young man Patrick Kennedy. Sarc.

Gee, Ossifer, I was on my way to an important vote!!

10 posted on 07/02/2006 5:17:47 PM PDT by Calusa (Looks like all we got for Fitzmas was a beat-up scooter)
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To: neverdem

More importantly, it will help extend state power, which will (for the rightist statists) help us Defeat Terrorism; for the lefist statists it will help us Defeat Poverty and other Societal Ills. If you question the State then you're probably a terrorist, a drug-head, or a corrupt greedy big-businessman.


11 posted on 07/02/2006 5:19:50 PM PDT by Cleburne
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To: neverdem

Of course! Should be an instant felony. Take away their weapons!


12 posted on 07/02/2006 5:21:12 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: ThomasThomas
"If impaired reasoning is a reason not to let someone drive, then..."
...Then there will be proper certificates of unimpaired reasoning. I'd call them "thinking permits". In case of some stupid idiocy the permit could [and ought to] be pulled. Things could get pretty interesting.
13 posted on 07/02/2006 5:32:37 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: neverdem
Interesting that after all these years of such "REASON" by enlightened progressive open minded libertarian thinkers to weaken drug laws and normnalize drug use as legitimate and harmless, actual Americans seem to be enacting laws that are going in the opposite direction.

Go figure.

14 posted on 07/02/2006 5:37:12 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy
Interesting that after all these years of such "REASON" by enlightened progressive open minded libertarian thinkers to weaken drug laws and normnalize drug use as legitimate and harmless, actual Americans seem to be enacting laws that are going in the opposite direction.

Such as? I've seen numerous articles on FR about lessened penalties for possession, and about legalization for medical use ... but nothing like what you seem to be implying.

15 posted on 07/02/2006 5:43:03 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
But, i think I can break any law I don't like if I enjoy the feeeeeeellllings it gives ME.

You're wrong. But you do have the natural right to do anything that doesn't violate someone else's rights ... and that includes smoking pot (but not driving under the influence).

16 posted on 07/02/2006 5:44:32 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: neverdem

This is a local story here (Jackson, MI).

http://www.mlive.com/news/jacitpat/index.ssf?/base/news-17/115099236535720.xml&coll=3




Blackman Township police in February 2004 cited Kurts, 44, of Michigan Center, after he was stopped for driving erratically. He admitted smoking marijuana, police said. The time frame in which he smoked is unclear.

A blood test did not detect the narcotic THC, or tetrahydrrocannabinol, which is in marijuana. Instead, the test showed the presence of carboxy THC, a benign product of metabolism that can remain in the blood for a month after marijuana use.

Jackson County Circuit Judge Chad Schmucker dismissed the case in 2004 on the basis that the THC remnant was not an illegal controlled substance. Wednesday's ruling sends the case back to Schmucker's court.




Not only do you get the initial ticket, but you also get another $3500 in "safe driver" taxes over the next 2 years.


17 posted on 07/02/2006 5:47:47 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: neverdem

Hey, let's take a look at the logical extension of this: what about the other false positives that come up on drug tests? Driving while under the influence of poppy seed rolls is sure to come next!


18 posted on 07/02/2006 6:07:46 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: TWohlford

Exactly! This isn't about driving safely, this is about the nanny state being able to bilk perfectly good drivers out of more money. And the fact that they have to have another good reason to pull you over before checking for this is only short termed I'm sure. Look at seat belt laws. originally they couldn't pull you over for not having one on but that didn't last long.

I don't smoke pot, never have but I certainly am against the government pulling over and running tests on anyone they please.
If I were pulled over and they wanted to run my urine or blood I'd be pissed. It would come out clean of course but I would feel as though my rights were violated if I had medical tests run because I what? didn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign?


19 posted on 07/02/2006 6:12:14 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: LibertarianInExile
Logical extension: Why stop with a pee/blood test? That only measures up to 30 days. A hair test goes back 6 months. If some one has a past conviction for possession on their record why isn't that probable cause for a dwi arrest/conviction? It's all evidence of past use. This law is simply ridiculous.
20 posted on 07/02/2006 6:13:55 PM PDT by Dosa26 (p-q4)
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