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Supreme Court Blocks Guantanamo Bay War-Crimes Trials (SCOTUS rules against President)
Fox News & AP ^ | June 29, 2006

Posted on 06/29/2006 7:11:53 AM PDT by pabianice

Edited on 06/29/2006 7:41:43 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Breaking...


Update:

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that President Bush overstepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees, a rebuke to the administration and its aggressive anti-terror policies.

Justice John Paul Stevens wrote the opinion, which said the proposed trials were illegal under U.S. law and Geneva conventions.

The case focused on Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni who worked as a body guard and driver for Usama bin Laden. Hamdan, 36, has spent four years in the U.S. prison at Guantanamo...

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To: Diogenesis

Agreed. Look at those poor people - I would think every one of them died that day, and their last hour was hell on Earth. THEY ARE US, OR COULD BE.

But trashing Bush and proving to the world that the US will not fight back are more important than American's safety, or protecting Western Civilization from savages.


541 posted on 06/29/2006 9:02:16 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: jamiefoxer

It's not clear to me what Bush is doing that hasn't been done before, and why the USSC is changing the rules now. It seems a political decision to me. Of course, many libs will criticize Bush for doing - in a much smaller fashion - what their hero FDR did extravagently.


542 posted on 06/29/2006 9:02:47 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Rummyfan

I was thinking the same thing.


543 posted on 06/29/2006 9:03:07 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Jameison

Sure it does apply. The Geneva Conventions stipulate that we treat our prisoners humanely and that each country that has prisoners need to give the prisoners a chance or FAIR process (not a closed, military tribunal beyond the reach of SCOTUS) to prove they are NOT combatants. If found guilty of extra-state terrorism (Al-Qaeda), they can be tried by the "violated" country (the U.S.) for the crimes they committed and imprisoned here in the USA. If found guilty of participating in a legitimate war against us, they should be accorded POW status and held an appropriate, HUMANE facility on our territory, that is overseen by our Congress and Supreme Court UNTIL the end of our conflicts with Iraq and Afghanistan.

Why is this hard to do?


544 posted on 06/29/2006 9:03:21 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: jamiefoxer


You talk like a DU'er. Begone.


545 posted on 06/29/2006 9:03:29 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Jameison

I agree....

We'll get to hear the Lib Press jump up and down for joy for about 24 hours, until thier attorneys explain to them what just happened.....


546 posted on 06/29/2006 9:04:07 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Liberalism-What a Pagan Religion...)
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To: jamiefoxer

[Iraqi Insurgents or taliban Resistance fighters]

I was wondering how long it would take someone to call them "resistance fighters", gag me.


[This is not a conservative or liberal position or issue...it's a question of what is legally mandated that we do.]

Well, the Nazis did everything "legally mandated" through a hijacked court system too, so your argument is really meaningless.


547 posted on 06/29/2006 9:04:41 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: SE Mom; Rummyfan
He's supposed to be back for this evening's show...

Good! Gooooooooooooooood!! /Palpatine

548 posted on 06/29/2006 9:04:54 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (The Rat Party's goal is to END the conflict, not WIN the conflict...should be the other way around.)
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To: jamiefoxer
, they should be accorded POW status and held an appropriate, HUMANE facility on our territory,

Ya mean like PFC Tommy Tucker was?????

549 posted on 06/29/2006 9:05:20 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: Petronski
Call me skeptical .. but I don't trust Graham .. nor McCain on any bills
550 posted on 06/29/2006 9:05:21 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePb6H-j51xE&search=Democrats)
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To: jamiefoxer

I say lets give them the same rights they gave our two soldiers in Iraq.


551 posted on 06/29/2006 9:05:28 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: mware

The Libs and Rats are going to look really dumb when all is said and done.


552 posted on 06/29/2006 9:05:28 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: COEXERJ145

That's not a position or argument...that's an admission that you have no argument.

Procedures to follow, in a nutshell.

If Al-Qaeda, try, prove, find guilty or innocent, and either IMPRISON (if guilty) or release (if innocent).
If legitimate POW, hold in appropriate facility humanely with oversight from Congress and SCOTUS, and release after end of our wars.

Simple LEGAL procedures we can follow that maintain our national security AND maintain our rule of law/values.


553 posted on 06/29/2006 9:05:33 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: SE Mom
Let's hope Congress steps up...NOW.

God help us...

554 posted on 06/29/2006 9:06:00 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (The Rat Party's goal is to END the conflict, not WIN the conflict...should be the other way around.)
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To: khnyny

So if I sign up to Free Republic today...I'm automatically Al-Qaeda and 9/11 supporting?

your logic is weak there, friend.


555 posted on 06/29/2006 9:06:29 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: jamiefoxer

Non-uniformed combatants cannot be termed "prisoners of war."


556 posted on 06/29/2006 9:06:46 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: xsmommy

yes


557 posted on 06/29/2006 9:06:49 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: jamiefoxer

"This is not a conservative or liberal position or issue...it's a question of what is legally mandated that we do"

No, it is a question of our nation's survival.


558 posted on 06/29/2006 9:06:54 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: jamiefoxer

Then why did the USSC approve of military tribunals in WWII for acts occurring on U.S. soil?


559 posted on 06/29/2006 9:07:02 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: jamiefoxer

DU'ER in disguise. Zot this 6/29 joined RAT


560 posted on 06/29/2006 9:07:04 AM PDT by KavMan
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