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More scientists express doubts on Darwin
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| June 22, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern
Posted on 06/22/2006 1:28:41 PM PDT by Tim Long
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To: celmak
"Too bad you fail to see this as a sign that we are winning. Of course, many Democrats failed to see faith as a winning block of voters in 2004; e.g., a winning block of Conservative SCOTUS judges that will vote to overturn the bigotry against Creation being taught along side Evolution in our schools. You seem to like making unfounded and illogical jumps in your conclusions. The list of names on Di's list may be growing but it is still much smaller than the number of scientists represented by the list of 'Steves' (a list of scientists named 'Steve' who support evolution). Currently the 'list of steves' represents 68,800 scientists. (Steves make up about 1% of Americans. As of Dec. 2005 688 Steves have signed the list)
What bigotry?
681
posted on
06/27/2006 8:27:39 PM PDT
by
b_sharp
(There is always one more mess to clean up.)
To: celmak
"How many times, say, just in the past 100 years, has the age of the earth changed? How many times has the age of the planet, during this 100 years, grown and shrunk?" What is your point?
Each change has been based on more accurate measurements. The age is not being changed arbitrarily.
In any case, no age of the Earth or the Universe given in the last hundred years is anywhere near the 6000-10000 years your belief system requires.
682
posted on
06/27/2006 8:32:36 PM PDT
by
b_sharp
(There is always one more mess to clean up.)
To: Realism
Cut the strawman, post the real comment if you're going to reply.
683
posted on
06/27/2006 8:59:33 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
To: editor-surveyor
As we were discussing several threads ago, I see no evidence for the global flood. I have just posted some comments, upthread, which may serve to expand our discussion.
See #634.
684
posted on
06/27/2006 9:03:53 PM PDT
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: OmahaFields
List of prayer requests to submit on Sunday:
Please pray that I succeed in:
- Robbing the local bank.
- Forging my letter of recommendation.
- Seducing the mailman.
Thank you!
685
posted on
06/28/2006 4:59:21 AM PDT
by
ahayes
("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
To: AndrewC
Most people who believe life begins at conception are opposed to IVF because typically more embryos are fertilized than are implanted. The ones that are not implanted are destroyed, frozen long term, or on occasion used for embryonic stem cell research. For someone who is pro-life having embryos frozen forever should be a little disturbing, but the other two alternatives should be considered murder if that person is consistent.
This is not including the Christians who are opposed to this type of treatment because they think that any medical interference to either prevent or induce pregnancy is displaying a lack of faith by failure to rely on God.
686
posted on
06/28/2006 5:03:50 AM PDT
by
ahayes
("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
To: brytlea; andysandmikesmom
Of course, I don't think it's helpful to tell anyone you think they're going to Hell.
It appears that Jesus disagrees. These sure look like warnings to me!
NIV Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
NIV Mark 9:43-48
43. If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.
45. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell.
47. And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell,
48. where "`their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.'
NIV Luke 12:5
5. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing othe body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him.
NIV Luke 16:19-31
19. "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day.
20. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores
21. and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22. "The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried.
23. In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.
24. So he called to him, `Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
25. "But Abraham replied, `Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.
26. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'
27. "He answered, `Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house,
28. for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'
29. "Abraham replied, `They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'
30. "`No, father Abraham,' he said, `but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.'
31. "He said to him, `If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"
687
posted on
06/28/2006 6:09:44 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: js1138
Most of the people signing do not have degrees in biology. And they may not
'...know much about History...'
either.
688
posted on
06/28/2006 6:11:43 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Tim Long
You may want to re-think your tagline...
689
posted on
06/28/2006 6:13:13 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: OmahaFields
But I may be mistaken in my assumption that fundamental Christians consider IV-embryo transfer a sin.
Does it really matter?
For Jesus can forgive it.
Matthew 12:31
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
690
posted on
06/28/2006 6:21:15 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: andysandmikesmom
But speak about Jesus, be gentle, and calm, and wise, and then perhaps someone may listen, who may not have wished to listen before.. Amen!
(But sometimes you need to get their attention ;^)
691
posted on
06/28/2006 6:23:58 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Coyoteman
I envy your work! (I know; shouldn't do that - kinda like coveting)
As a mid-westerner (why isn't it mid-easterner?), I'd trade steamy Indiana summers for dry Utah ones, but my better half wouldn't be a happy camper.
Oh well, I can take trips often enough....
692
posted on
06/28/2006 6:27:44 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: OmahaFields
693
posted on
06/28/2006 6:31:53 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: ahayes
Actually, you are not far wrong in your list of things to pray for.
Many Christians are misguided as hell in some matters!
694
posted on
06/28/2006 6:36:04 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Coyoteman
Of course not, but I have a life. You've made a lot of points and I will take up the 1st one at lunch today. I'm a Working family man, I squeeze in what extra time I have to debate this. See you at noon bandito!
695
posted on
06/28/2006 6:55:18 AM PDT
by
celmak
To: Elsie
Does it really matter?It was only being considered in the context of the, then current, argument where the other poster had posted a "study" that used IV-embryo transfer patients.
To: Elsie
I'll leave that to Jesus then. And, perhaps you, if you think that works for you.
susie
697
posted on
06/28/2006 8:12:17 AM PDT
by
brytlea
(amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
To: editor-surveyor
Cut the strawman, post the real comment if you're going to reply. A shinning example of how physical evidence is refuted by those who do not have an open mind concerning the subject. You are only here to convince others to agree, those who don't agree are simply far below your level of intellect. Another debate you likely should avoid.
698
posted on
06/28/2006 8:27:41 AM PDT
by
Realism
(Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
To: brytlea; Elsie
Brytlea, I agree with you...I will leave it to Jesus...
And Elsie, yes, one may need to get anothers attention...and there are ways to get ones attention, other than bashing them over the head, and condemning them...bashing and condemning are poor, lazy ways of introducing one to Jesus...and I will leave those ways to the lazy ones...ones who truly want to talk to others about Jesus, for the sake of that persons salvation, and not in a vain attempt to puff themselves up, will gain anothers attention in a fine way, not in an evil way...
To: brytlea
I'll leave that to Jesus then. And, perhaps you, if you think that works for you.
Alrighty then....
NIV Matthew 28:19-20
19. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20. and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
NIV 1 Corinthians 2:16
"For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
NIV 1 Corinthians 11:1
Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
NIV 1 Peter 4:11
If anyone speaks, he should do it as one speaking the very words of God. If anyone serves, he should do it with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen.
If someone says, "God told me to say this or that"; he gets ridiculed.
If they POST His WORD from the Bible, they get brushed off as irrelevant.
What's a poor, old evangelist to do???
700
posted on
06/28/2006 11:39:45 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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