Posted on 06/22/2006 1:28:41 PM PDT by Tim Long
600 dissenters sign on challenging claims about support for theory
More than 600 scientists holding doctoral degrees have gone on the record expressing skepticism about Darwin's theory of evolution and calling for critical examination of the evidence cited in its support.
All are signatories to the Scientific Dissent From Darwinism statement, which reads: "We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged."
The statement, which includes endorsement by members of the prestigious U.S. National Academy of Sciences and Russian Academy of Sciences, was first published by the Seattle-based Discovery Institute in 2001 to challenge statements about Darwinian evolution made in promoting PBS's "Evolution" series.
The PBS promotion claimed "virtually every scientist in the world believes the theory to be true."
The list of 610 signatories includes scientists from National Academies of Science in Russia, Czech Republic, Hungary, India (Hindustan), Nigeria, Poland, Russia and the United States. Many of the signers are professors or researchers at major universities and international research institutions such as Cambridge University, British Museum of Natural History, Moscow State University, Masaryk University in Czech Republic, Hong Kong University, University of Turku in Finland, Autonomous University of Guadalajara in Mexico, University of Stellenbosch in South Africa, Institut de Paleontologie Humaine in France, Chitose Institute of Science & Technology in Japan, Ben-Gurion University in Israel, MIT, The Smithsonian and Princeton.
"Dissent from Darwinism has gone global," said Discovery Institute President Bruce Chapman. "Darwinists used to claim that virtually every scientist in the world held that Darwinian evolution was true, but we quickly started finding U.S. scientists that disproved that statement. Now we're finding that there are hundreds, and probably thousands, of scientists all over the world that don't subscribe to Darwin's theory."
The Discovery Institute is the leading promoter of the theory of Intelligent Design, which has been at the center of challenges in federal court over the teaching of evolution in public school classes. Advocates say it draws on recent discoveries in physics, biochemistry and related disciplines that indicate some features of the natural world are best explained as the product of an intelligent cause rather than an undirected process such as natural selection.
"I signed the Scientific Dissent From Darwinism statement because I am absolutely convinced of the lack of true scientific evidence in favor of Darwinian dogma," said Raul Leguizamon, M.D., pathologist and professor of medicine at the Autonomous University of Guadalajara, Mexico.
"Nobody in the biological sciences, medicine included, needs Darwinism at all," he added. "Darwinism is certainly needed, however, in order to pose as a philosopher, since it is primarily a worldview. And an awful one, as Bernard Shaw used to say."
Ann Coulter speaks about a few of them in her latest book.
I ain't no walking encyclopedia, but the matter of judges dictating what can and can not be said in public classrooms is endemic. Endemic, you know always present in a community.
I'll be glad to put together a list of what I can find for you if you seriously want names. I can't do it right now because of time constraints.
I will say that you probably have as much an access to Google or other searchers as I do. Or you could read of the cases Ann noted.
Uh, the first word was "Fine" in response to what you were doing. I just wanted to clarify my position. I think your skin is too thin for this open forum. OTOH, you sure are great at 'inferring' onto other people.
I gotta laugh about your comment about imposing my will by praying for someone. If you aren't Christian, then you would believe my prayers go nowhere anyway. How does that harm you? Is wishing you well also forbidden by you as well? ;) Anyway, hon, you got issues, and somehow I stepped into them. I feel bad for you, and yeah, I probably WILL say a prayer for you. I promise it will be something innocuous like a prayer for mercy or something. Have a good day.
I gotta laugh too. I have been around here a short time but long enough that when posting to y'all, subtle posts don't work. You have to hit them over the head with a post in order for them to get the meaning. Of course we know why, because they are reading the posts through Sunday school shaded glasses.
It is not what I believe. It is the fact that those that pray THINK they are imposing their will on others against that persons will. Why is it "Christian" to think that is ok.
Hmm. This was not a case of praying for sinners, but a case of praying for the sin to be successfull. By praying for success, there will be more people trying IV-embryo transfer than before. But I may be mistaken in my assumption that fundamental Christians consider IV-embryo transfer a sin. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Nice post - for someone that supports praying for others to sin.
So tell me, where did you find out where they get their degrees? The ones I found received them from Brown, USC, etc.
Than why are scientist certain there was a "Big Bang?"
"First off, the way the survey question is worded, I would probably have signed it had I not known it was put out by that particular organization. Secondly, how many of those "scientists" are biologists? Anyone else has as much bearing on this issue as you or I."
Never the less the list grows, and so too the pressure to have Creation along side Evolution in schools. It will happen, happy & true!
Oh, those left-wing bastions of socialism?
Actually the list shortens. Many have repudiated the organization that used their names in a manner they did not agree to. As for the pressure of Creation in the science class, it was dealt several big blows recently and now the creationists are huddled around trying to figure out what to do next.
OTOH, the ID movement is catching fire in the Muslim world.
No, it means the Bible had it right first, it scientist who disregard this fact that waist time trying to disprove Creation.
Logical Evo
Slow down, take a sip of water, two deep breaths and then review your post before hitting the post button.
Georges Lemaitre, who posited the Big Bang theory, was a Catholic priest, a creationist if you will.
The irony here is that Judge Jones would have forbidden any discussion of Lemaitres work in public schools. At least I think it's ironic sharpy. :-}
I'm going to stop what is clearly an exercise in pointlessness. You can say that you won a debate, and everyone else who read this (if anyone indeed did) will decide for themselves. I will leave this saying, I don't really have a clue what your point is. I doubt you do either. Anyway, this is clearly a waste of time. Have a good one.
susie
Point taken...but it is as you state, not at all helpful, and in my opinion, just plain vile, to tell anyone that you think that they are going to Hell(and make that statement as if it were a known fact), and then laugh about it...
Would you actually approach a person and say they are going to Hell, and that you are going to have a good laugh over that? No, I dont believe that you would...but there are many on FR, many who do exactly that...and it is to them specifically, that I say, keep you nosey nose to yourself, and worry about your own fate...
Corrections made.
Absolutely I would not, that doesn't serve any purpose. And I don't see how anyone could find any joy in another human being actually going to hell (barring of course someone who has truely greviously wronged that person--even that is wrong from a Christian perspective, but understandable). Personally, I would love it if we all got to go someplace really nice after this life, but my reading of the Bible doesn't lead me to actually believe that. However, as I think I stated previously, I can't save anyone anyway, that is between them and the HS. I know that before I and my conversion experience, I HATED people to talk to me about Jesus and all that stuff, so I know exactly how people feel about it.
Thanks for being civil.
susie
No, it means the Bible had it right first; its scientist who disregard this fact that waste time. trying to disprove Creation will ultimately prove it.
Hit send button too soon again. too much coffee! ;)
Does this include the global flood too?
Sounds like a definite case FOR Creation & Evolution to be taught together. Here, here! And thank you.
Yes.
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