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Dan Rather in history
Townhall.com ^ | 22 June 2006 | Brent Bozell

Posted on 06/21/2006 7:05:42 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

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To: Aussie Dasher
There are several things that stick out in my memory about the Rather Report that did him in.

On the day the report aired Rather had copies of the Documents presented to the White House with a request for comment. When the white house had not replied by late afternoon Rather contacted the White House and asked for a comment on the Documents. Rather was told the White House had "No Comment".

At about the same time the White House put the Documents on the White House web site for all to see.

Why?

For those fake documents to make it to the White House web site two things must be true. Some one very high up... the president most likely.... had to approve putting those documents on the web site. If Rove or the President thought for one half second that the documents were true and accurate they would NEVER have put them on the White House web site. The conclusion is the White HOuse knew the information contained in the documents was false and the Documents were fake.

Why then did the White House tell Rather,"No Comment"?

Anyone who had been around Washington more than a half hour would know that Rather would interpret a White House "No Comment" as an admission of guilt. Even when politicians are guilty they still challenge any and all evidence.

Rather had to assume that if the information in the documents was false then the Bush white house would have screamed that information in the documents was false.

Rather reasoned that even if the documents were fake, the information they contained had to be true.. other wise Bush would have shouted the documents are false at the top of his lungs. "No comment" to Rather meant Bush is guilty. And that was enough for Rather to bet his career on those fake documents.

The President had to know that what was contained in the documents was untrue. It is very likely that in about the same time it took Buckhead to determine the documents were fake, the White house knew they were fake.

Then why the no comment and why put the documents on the White House web site?

It seems to me that when the documents were shown to Bush and Rove, they decided to use them to take Rather down. Rove certainly had studied all the network anchors. He had to know that if they waited until Rather contacted them and then said "No Comment", Rather would bet his career that the documents were at worst "fake but accurate". Rather could not believe that the Bush White House would say "No Comment" if the documents were "Fake and Lies".

Putting the Documents on the web was an attempt to make it easy for someone other than the White House to prove the documents were fake. If no Buckhead had come forward, I think the white house was prepared to prove the documents were fake and the contents lies.

But that "No Comment" comment would insure that Rather would believe that even if the documents were fake the contents were the truth.

I think Rather Got BUSHwhacked.. big time. I think it took a long time for Rather to find out he had been BUSHwhacked, The CBS suits suspected, but Rather do doubt lied to them.. Rather I think told them he had iron clad proof that Bush was guilty as charged. The Iron clad proof was the White House "No Comment". So the suits let Rather play out his Fake but Accurate ploy.

When at last the Suits were certain of the truth they had to know that Bush And Rove had Bushwhacked not only Rather but CBS.

Rather had to go. And the whole world had to be made aware that Rather had been fired.

The word BUSHwhacked has to be burned into Rather's brain.

But I have one other thing to say. Reagan told the world that Peggy Noonan wrote his speeches. But since leaving the White House Peggy has never been able to write as well as she did when she wrote for Reagan. Yet Reagan even when announcing he had Alzheimer's, wrote just as well as Peggy did when she was given credit for "writing" Reagan's speeches.

Don't be surprised if once Rove stops working for President Bush, he never again reaches the level of expertise he shows when working for Bush. And don't be surprised if Bush in th future is just as good a strategist as he was when Rove was getting all the credit.

I think Rather got into a contest with President Bush and got BUSHwacked .... big time.

41 posted on 06/21/2006 8:25:26 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Aussie Dasher
"Rather is a victim of his own deceptions - he's gone but Dubya's still there!!!! "

Well said, mate!

42 posted on 06/21/2006 8:26:10 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: f zero
Dan Rather IS history :)

LOL!! Thank you! The first time I read it, I thought the title actually said that. (Wishful thinking, I guess...)

43 posted on 06/21/2006 8:33:35 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I'm ashamed to actually be related to Dan Rather. Fortunately, it's by a marriage that has long since been disolved. It's a shame, because his brother was a REALLY nice guy, but was killed in an accident many years ago. The world would be a better place had he been spared, and Dan been in that car.


44 posted on 06/21/2006 8:56:28 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (You can't get blood from a turnip, and with liberals, you can't get common sense from stupid.)
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To: Bonaparte

But perky, commie Katie will be so much better.


45 posted on 06/21/2006 9:00:36 PM PDT by mach1
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To: Aussie Dasher

Dan Rather isn't in history, he's history like a footnote. In the 1960's, I remember watching the Democratic and Republican conventions (1968) - I remember HHH and McCarthy, and Mayor of Chicago guy, and Nixon, and Reagan (signs thrown in the garbage), and so many others. At that time, there were "big name" anchors on ABC, NBC, CBS - I remember the faces of these famous people, but now their names are fading. Sure, 100 years from now their faces in black and white will be played for some history lesson, but no one will really know, or care, about their names. It will be the larger picture that will be the point of the lesson. Whoever holds power at that time, be it the people or some dictator or such, they will determine the lesson ... hopefully the lesson will be a reminder of how the media lied and twisted to support primate ideas such as socialism, as propagandists for these ideas and enemies of Democracy. But no one will know their names. They won't know Danny boy either. In fact, I am already forgetting him. Dan Rather is history. As in done history, as in dust bin.


46 posted on 06/21/2006 9:06:08 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: Aussie Dasher

Don't you mean, Dan Rather IS history?


47 posted on 06/21/2006 9:15:30 PM PDT by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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To: Common Tator

Good analysis and I agree, CT. Of course, the WH didn't have to lift a finger, even when gunga dan went deep into shark-infested waters. The Pajamahideen took care of everything.


48 posted on 06/21/2006 9:18:08 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Common Tator

Oh, yeah... am I the only one to notice how deeply the MSM has buried the kerry campaign connection to rathergate?


49 posted on 06/21/2006 9:22:01 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Aussie Dasher

I am still amazed at Rather's apparently genuine belief that he was unbiased. He would have done splendid commentary on the quality of the Emperor's New Clothes. Hold up four fingers, Dan would have described five with perfect sincerity, before tossing in a wacky Texas simile and smiling engagingly. He is not sane.


50 posted on 06/21/2006 9:44:06 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Bonaparte
Oh, yeah... am I the only one to notice how deeply the MSM has buried the kerry

They may have burried it from us, but not from themselves. Kerry saw to it that the media will take care before it buys what a democratic campaign puts out again.

One big advantage a Democratic campaign had, was it could feed the press accusations about Republicans and the media would go with it. Because in the past there had always been a plausable grain of truth in the accusation.

This time it turned out to be fake and a lie. From now on the media will not be sure that what a democrats feeds them is not a fake and a lie.

It will be harder for Democrats to use the media to trash Republicans. No one in the media wants to be the next Dan Rather.

They would like to go with the crap the Democrats feed them but for a while many in the media will fear to go with it on the Democrat campaign's word. Kerry managed to screw future Democrat candidates. That is not lost on other Democratic candidates.

51 posted on 06/21/2006 9:45:10 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks for the ping!


52 posted on 06/21/2006 10:35:01 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Common Tator
Yep. The blogosphere kicked cbs to the curb nice and hard. Starting with Buckhead and others here at FR, then Sheffield at ratherbiased and on to powerline and Drudge. By then, it was raging out of control and all rather and his crew could do was feebly circle the wagons and hunker down for the inevitable massacre. George and Dick must have been rolling on the WH floor laughing.

Personally, I don't think cbs has any scruples at all about lying or about defaming a public figure or about interfering in a federal election. I think they've always done this, deliberately and knowingly. IMO, they just couldn't believe that they'd ever get caught and exposed -- much less by "a bunch of guys in pajamas."

53 posted on 06/21/2006 10:35:50 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Common Tator
Here's an example of what I mean. Back in 1988, rather and cbs had no compunction about spreading lies about the war in Vietnam. In fact, that program, which has long since been exposed as fraudulent by Burkett and many others, is still in the network's "history archive." CBS knew then and knows now that the men rather interviewed were liars, but they persist in those lies -- just as they continue to insist that they and rather were somehow "taken in" by the childishly crude forgeries of a delusional mental case.
54 posted on 06/21/2006 10:59:14 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: FDNYRHEROES
It's a pleasant thought that what CBS did to Dan Rather, they will someday do to Katie Couric...It will happen...I guarantee it...

I suspect you will be right. Couric is as rabid a rodent as Dano ever was.

Left out of the discussion by the old media is the plain fact that CBS attempted to remove a sitting President. A bunch of wild eyed moveon socialists decided that their opinion should trump that of the electorate.

They knew their evidence was false, but when you are the tip of the spear of the vanguard any tactic to bring down an evil Republican is "moral".

55 posted on 06/22/2006 4:23:54 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: Genesis defender
"What's the frequency, Kenneth?"

It is actually a sad story and it is one of the few stories about Dan that make me feely sorry for him.

The assault was pretty serious and Dan got beat up pretty badly. No one (well almost no one) deserves that kind of beating, even a liberal narcissist.

56 posted on 06/22/2006 6:04:57 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Left created, embraces and feeds "The Culture of Hate." Make it part of the political lexicon!)
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To: freedumb2003

"The assault was pretty serious and Dan got beat up pretty badly. No one (well almost no one) deserves that kind of beating, even a liberal narcissist."

I agree.
That was a dastardly attack.



57 posted on 06/22/2006 6:34:13 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Aussie Dasher
Rather secured two interviews with Saddam Hussein, both on the verge of his wars with the United States, one in 1990, one in 2003. In both of these interviews, Rather treated Saddam with extreme deference, like a world statesman. He asked in 1990 if Saddam thought Kuwait was "Vietnam in the sand for the United States." He sounded in 2003 like he and Saddam were on an airstrip in Casablanca: "Given the sober moment and the danger at hand, what are the chances this is the last time you and I will see each other?"

Rather kissing butt with every despicable dictator he could find was only equaled by Barbara WaWa doing a kiss butt interview with Castro in Cuba. Why MSM people love the bad boys is creepy in it's whipped up sexual overtones. (no pun intended - well, maybe some)

58 posted on 06/22/2006 6:46:38 AM PDT by GOPJ (Once you see the MSM manipulate opinion, all their efforts seem manipulative-Reformedliberal)
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To: Jacquerie
It appears that after Katie left the Today show the ratings were unchanged. Isn't that interesting. She must not have been essential to holding the audience.

I would bet some suits at CBS are nervous.

If some audience does not go away when you leave, the audience will not show up when you appear.

Perky Katie had initial success becuase she was the first of the news babes. Sad to say but old news babes don't fare well in the TV world.

Katie Couric has all the appeal of Rita Cosby.. that is if Rita had more wrinkles.


59 posted on 06/22/2006 6:59:24 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Aussie Dasher

Another suck-up comment, when Dan and Connie were co-anchors: "If Connie and I could be half as good together as you and Hillary are, we'd take it right there and go home."


60 posted on 06/22/2006 7:08:26 AM PDT by sine_nomine (Marvel at the Senate's No Mexican Left Behind Bill (wit cloned from M. Steyn))
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