Posted on 06/20/2006 1:07:06 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
June 20, 2006 - San Francisco, CA - PipeLineNews.org - Already the lefty websites are rejoicing over the brutal torture deaths of two U.S. servicemen - Pfc. Kristian Menchaca, 23, of Houston, Texas and Pfc. Thomas L. Tucker, 25, of Madras, Oregon – at the hands of Muslim terrorists.
Eager to re-brand the war as a disaster after the death of al-Zarqawi, the western media and the Democrat leadership will rise nearly as one to use the barbaric treatment of Mr. Menchaca and Tucker as nothing more than bloody rags to further inflame the discussion over the American response to Muslim terror. Of course this is exactly why the servicemen were captured and subjected to torture in the first place because the response by the media and the dhimmis on the left will advance al-Qaeda’s media strategy.
In a period of history in which the denial of a Coke to an al-Qaeda murderer in GITMO constitutes torture, how do we place today’s events in Iraq in perspective?
Well it’s pretty easy.
From the 7th century until the present the chief export from Muslim countries has been pain, suffering, torture and brutal oppression. In such a continuum it’s pretty hard to indict practices as individually barbarous because 1,300 years of such inures the senses against all but the most abominably heinous actions.
Class, let us do a partial review:
In the early 600s Muslim armies swarmed over Christian Judea and Syria.
A few years later they crushed Persia [today called Iran - the location of the Sunni/Shia split] and then proceeded to plunder Christian North Africa, including Egypt.
In the early 700s the Muslim armies proceeded across the Straights of Gibraltar to the Iberian Peninsula where Christian Spain and Portugal fell under the yoke of the crescent hordes - the sons of Mohammed.
Along the way entire populations were put to the sword, beheaded, burned, impaled and subjected to every form of physical depravity known to exist before or since.
Churches were defiled, altars urinated upon and nuns raped before being mutilated then put to ugly deaths.
Please remember that we are only talking here about a relatively brief time span of 100 years, in a gangrous play which is now well over a thousand years in duration.
So the events in Iraq today are hardly without adequate historical precedent.
This is the way Muslims wage war; these are the stakes in Iraq and the greater war on terror.
It is against such brutality that claims by the enemies of liberal democracy - the left - equating the United States with the Third Reich can properly be placed.
Whether western society has sufficient will to prevail in what surely is a clash of cultures - one of light and life, the other of darkness and death - remains very much in question.
Drop a nuke on Mecca and get their attention. Watch them squirm.
Would I lose sleep? Not a minute.
Maintained that there was rape commited at Abu Garab. He points to the US Army Report on the matter.
The only mentions of rape in that report involved the alleged (by prisoners!) rape committed by an Egyptian (thus Muslim) homosexual hired as a translator, and one or more committed by prisoners against other prisoners. (All Muslims of course).
The report was an investigation of cover up or lack of proper control by higher echelons. AFAIK, no US soldier was ever tried for any rape in that prison. Implying that US soldiers did commit such rapes, aid and comfort is being given to the beheaders.
And pillaged and brutalized going west and north into southern and central Europe via Asia Minor...destroying what was left of Byzantium - the Muslim Turks were particularly brutal...and we are living with the disastrous effects today.
They paid the "non believer" taxes and asked "How High?" when the Muzzies said "Jump". Many did convert, which is why we have Pakistan and Bangladesh, which are part of historic India. The same is true of Persia (Iran), where very very few Zoroastrians survived, and another few immigrated to India
Tag line says it all
The majority of Iraqi's will never, ever be our friends. This is a tribal Islamic people who recongize we are unwilling to be brutal enough to assert are will over that land.
Establishing "Islamic democracy" is a fools errand. It can only be done if the US, and West, is willing to be absolutely brutal. We're not willing to do that, the Islamic horde we face know it, and worse - they are willing to be that brutal.
If we must conquer Islamic lands, lets please do it when we are actually ready to fight to win.
If we collectively decided to fight for real in Iraq, and we won't, but if we actually did, the US should start by annhilating any person, group, organization, mosque or population center that even hints at opposition to our rule. And that means a willingness to incinerate places like Falluja and Ramadi - kinda like we were perfectly willing to do to German and Japanese cities in the last war we fought to win.
The mission in Iraq should have been to remove Saddam's regime and decimate his military. The Shia and Kurds should have been allowed to annhilate the Sunni who were never going to willingly give up power. The US does not have a repsonsibility to build a democracy in every nation we must fight militarily. The argument that we must build a democracy everywhere we go is folly.
Would you like to read the Taguba report? You should.
Would you like to read the Taguba report? You should.
That rascal Lando..........
You are obviously a troll, conserv13.
Not going to waste any time debating with you, why not slink back to KOS, assuming its up and running again.
See ya.
However I note that you didn't publish a link to the "Taguba Report", so I can only assume you've implied more than is in it as well.
Just curious. What did conserv13 do to get the boot?
Similar? Similar in cutting off heads but at least they attempted to do it in one swipe with a sword rather than with a dull knife. The Japanese were unquestionably brutal but at least wore uniforms, our troops weren't treated too well, some even died at their hands, but they actually had a CHANCE of making it alive. Words fail to describe the savage beast cowards we are up against in Iraq, Afghanistan, all Islamic nations. But if the atomic bomb was good enough for Japan it is certainly even more useful now. It's out of control. Sure, not every Iraqi or Arab, Islam follower may be so evil but it is astounding how widespread this evil permeates throughout the Middle East. They are psychotic and we are not going to kill them or put an end to this with kindness. The US had better learn to put aside the Geneva Convention because in no way does it apply. This is a battle for survival.
You are spot on siunevada. As we have proved in the past, when we fight a war all out to WIN and demand an unconditional surrender, the good people of the USA have been able to forgive (not forget) our former enemies and become allies. Yes, we may still fight like siblings every once in awhile, but it is usually just a war of words then we continue on.
However, we are not fighting a country with defined leaders but a hoard of DNA challenged misfits that have become losers in life's lottery mainly because of their believe in a hate cult. When you get the leaders of an actual country to surrender progress can be made. This is not a country we are at war with.
How can the civilized world discuss terms of surrender with a hate cult? We would have to tell them to stop believing in that pig-O-phobe MoHamMud and their douche bag Deity allah. How do you negotiate disbelief? How do you negotiate reducing hypersensitivity to being "offended"? How do you negotiate civilized behavior? You might be able to regulate their acts for some limited time but IMO you cannot negotiate away stupidity and a belief that permeates the core of their maggot infested subhuman bodies.
They didn't - At one time Afghanistan, Pakistan, eastern Iran and Western India were all Hindu...now they are islamic hellholes.
I was being sarcastic...sorta....
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