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Romney says he's religious, but won't discuss Mormon doctrine
Boston.com ^ | 06/06/2006 | Steve LeBlanc

Posted on 06/06/2006 10:11:12 PM PDT by Panerai

Gov. Mitt Romney says he would be willing to talk about his Mormon religion in broad terms should he run for president but would shy away from debating specific beliefs.

"I think initially some people would say, `Gosh, I don't know much about your faith. Tell me about it.' And I'd probably outline the fundamentals: I'm a religious person, I believe that Jesus Christ is my savior," Romney said during an appearance on PBS's "The Charlie Rose Show." "But then as you get into the details of doctrines, I'd probably say, 'Look, time out.'"

Among other things, Mormons believed in polygamy until 1890 and banned blacks from the priesthood until 1978. They also maintain temples open only to members where rites such as vicarious baptisms for the dead are performed.

Romney also reiterated on the show, which aired Monday, that he believes the question of whether to outlaw abortion should be left up to individual states. It was a nuanced view that allows him to maintain his anti-abortion views while leaving intact Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court ruling allowing abortion.

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To: SteveMcKing

"You've made your point that you don't like him, but said practically nothing of why."

Mostly because of what I've seen him do in Mass. He is a socialist who, judging from what he's done there, increase taxes, heavily regulate firearms, socialize medicine, and drive people away.


21 posted on 06/06/2006 10:32:21 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: BlueMoose

"Sir you have no knowledge of the Mormon faith."

not a sir, I work for a living. I've never been a mormon but have studied the doctrine and had friends who were/are mormon. I don't have any hatred for it. To me its just another cult similiar to scientology.


22 posted on 06/06/2006 10:33:52 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Panerai; xzins; blue-duncan; jude24
Romney also reiterated on the show, which aired Monday, that he believes the question of whether to outlaw abortion should be left up to individual states. It was a nuanced view that allows him to maintain his anti-abortion views while leaving intact Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court ruling allowing abortion.

Huh?

If that were true, then he would be in favor of overturning Roe v. Wade. Roe v. Wade took away the rights of the states to make that determination.

I have a feeling he is completely ignorant of his own position. That does not bode well for his candidacy. But if he is in favor of leaving the decision to outlaw abortions up to the individual states and he promises to appoint judges who would follow that view, then I'd have to say I'd have no problem voting for him if he is the Republican candidate. But if he can't figure out what Roe v. Wade means, then I suspect he is not smart enough to pull that off.

23 posted on 06/06/2006 10:39:16 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: driftdiver
"I don't have any hatred for it. "

Sir , sorry I'm not to show respect, I can't believe this statement.

Your posts lead me to believe you have a hatred for some thing you don't understand.

24 posted on 06/06/2006 10:39:21 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: Tim Long

I noticed this contradiction as well. I understand that Romney used to be Pro-Choice, but I'm not certain of that.


25 posted on 06/06/2006 10:39:58 PM PDT by NavVet (O)
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To: Panerai
I'm a religious person, I believe that Jesus Christ is my savior," Romney said

Hey Mr.Romney, you are speaking like a Christian. Mormons do not believe in Jesus Christ as Saviour. So either you are not a Mormon or you speak with forked tongue.

26 posted on 06/06/2006 10:41:40 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: P-Marlowe

Romney was pro-choice a short 4 years ago when he ran for Governor of Massachusetts, only now when he's running for the President he decided to change his views. This RINO is full of it.


27 posted on 06/06/2006 10:44:42 PM PDT by Panerai
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To: cherry

understand that if a non-Mormon girl was to marry a Mormon, her family would not be allowed to watch the ceremony in the temple in SLC"

Only a select few get married in the SLC temple.Usually the ((("PROPHET")))performs the ceremony which makes it an eternal marriage. All other marriages disolve at the death of one of the partners.


28 posted on 06/06/2006 10:45:51 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: NavVet

Yes, he used to be. I'm confident he's pro-life now, though, as it isn't exactly politically profitable to be pro-life in Massachusetts.


29 posted on 06/06/2006 10:46:21 PM PDT by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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To: P-Marlowe
I have a feeling he is completely ignorant of his own position.

I think the reporter is completely ignorant of what he's talking about.

30 posted on 06/06/2006 10:48:03 PM PDT by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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To: SteveMcKing
You've made your point that you don't like him, but said practically nothing of why.

Northeastern RINO. Enough said.

BTW - your screenname could have just been Steve McQueen. No need for the King. McQueen was a real man's man despite the last name.

31 posted on 06/06/2006 10:48:39 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: BlueMoose

"Your posts lead me to believe you have a hatred for some thing you don't understand."

I hate very few things. Terrorists, child rapists, and certain members of the MSM.

Apathy is probably a more accurate term. I do confess to being annoyed a the way Mormons claim to be Christian. I'm certainly not alone in that.

All of this is why his being morman is important. When a person runs for office I beleive you should consider the whole person. If you don't beleive religion is important who would you feel if some Muslim was running for President.


32 posted on 06/06/2006 10:50:19 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: taxesareforever
Hey Mr.Romney, you are speaking like a Christian. Mormons do not believe in Jesus Christ as Saviour. So either you are not a Mormon or you speak with forked tongue.

What are your religious credentials that allow you to make that statement?

As an ex-Mormon I can attest to the fact that all Mormons believe that "Jesus Christ" is their savior. Doctrinal differences lie in the definitions, but the statement by Romney is an honest one.

33 posted on 06/06/2006 10:51:00 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: cherry
I understand that if a non-Mormon girl was to marry a Mormon, her family would not be allowed to watch the ceremony in the temple in SLC.....they would be excluded.....but that's just what someone told me so I don't know if it's true in this day and age....

A non-member cannot marry in the temple. They would have a marriage in the chapel by the bishop and her family would be able to attend. This has always been true.

34 posted on 06/06/2006 11:00:06 PM PDT by Ruth A. (we might as well fight in the first ditch as the last)
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To: taxesareforever
Mormons do not believe in Jesus Christ as Saviour.

How interesting that non-Mormons are so comfortable telling Mormons what they believe. Yes, Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world and that is what Mormons believe. You would have couched your own beliefs more accurately if you had stated that you did believe that Christ is a Savior to the Mormons. For the record, your beliefs do not limit the Savior's power.

35 posted on 06/06/2006 11:05:11 PM PDT by Ruth A. (we might as well fight in the first ditch as the last)
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To: philetus
Only a select few get married in the SLC temple.Usually the ((("PROPHET")))performs the ceremony which makes it an eternal marriage. All other marriages disolve at the death of one of the partners.

Again, we have non-Mormons proclaiming what the Mormons believe. If a member adheres to strict moral standards and practices faith, then he or she can enter the temple. It is not a "select few" nor is the standard bar so high that it is unattainable. Yes, we believe in eternal marriage performed by priesthood authority (not limited to the prophet or general authorities of the Church) and not "until death do you part."

36 posted on 06/06/2006 11:10:16 PM PDT by Ruth A. (we might as well fight in the first ditch as the last)
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To: Panerai
If I am not mistaken, he can't talk because there are things you only learn once you've advanced in the temple. I've asked a few Mormon friends some questions but haven't gotten much further than "you're not supposed to know, so I don't want to talk about it."

I've never mentioned it to any of them, but my stake in it is that my aunt converted and disappeared with all her money to somewhere in Nebraska 20 years ago, where the last we heard from her was a photo of her and a request for genealogy info. Someone passed along word that she'd died several years ago, but that was it.

So before voting for a Mormon, I'd be curious to know why they have protected knowledge, why they insist on baptizing people who don't wish to be, and why exactly people carry out secretive activities after having given the sum total of their material wealth to the church. And when they say they are 'basically' the same as other Christian churches, but there's all this weird stuff, like aspiring to become gods of their own creations, that they refuse to talk about? I can understand someone not wanting to get personal about their religion, but this secretive crap is a different story.
37 posted on 06/06/2006 11:12:48 PM PDT by non-anonymous
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To: driftdiver
A persons religion effects their decisions. That makes it our business as voters. Its part of who they are and why the do what they do. If they aren't basing the decisions on their background, education, teachings, etc then what do they base the decisions on? Who gives the most money to spend the night in the Lincoln bedroom?

A good point too little understood.

38 posted on 06/06/2006 11:13:47 PM PDT by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: BlueMoose

Then help us understand. Give us more than the polished white shirt, tie, and youthful smile version.


39 posted on 06/06/2006 11:17:46 PM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, the Marine Corps, and now the Navy Chaplain Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: Tim Long
Why does everyone bring up his faith so much

Have you noticed all the Polygamy shows on mainstream television, A&E, History, PBS, news story shows... I think the left is afraid of him running. There were rumbles of his Presidential interests a few years ago. My theory is they are just setting up a hostile view of Mormons in the public at large. All they have to say when he runs is "Mormon" and they are hoping people will have a bad taste in their mouth. "Oh no, not another religious fanatic", "look at what they do to woman and children"

That's just my theory...

40 posted on 06/06/2006 11:19:52 PM PDT by bellas_sister ("MUSLIM EXTREMISTS ARE TRYING TO KILL US!!!!!!")
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