[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Now this is special.....

[Hunble]

With continental drift, where was this located 55 million years ago?

[aliquis]

What natural processes? It's them dinosaurs in those gigantic SUVs! It's them that done it!

[Poseidon]

"Basically, it looks like the Earth released a gigantic fart of green house gases into the atmosphere - and globally the Earth warmed by about 5C (41F).
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When current climate models were applied to this period of the Earth's history, said Dr Sluijs, they predict North Pole temperatures to be about 15C (59F) lower than the core shows.

Looks like someone has poor math skills. Somebaody converted a differential to a temperature...oops. 5C is only 9F and 15C is only 27F.

[Homer1]

Their C->F conversion is a bit flawed when they speak of rises and declines. Perhaps the author should attend some remedial math classes.

[TheDon]

"Today's warming of the Arctic can, in all likelihood, be attributed to mankind's impact on the planet, but as our data suggest, natural processes operating in the past have also resulted in a significant warming and cooling of the Arctic."

A good example of the global warming psychosis.

[Right Wing Assault]

Rebecca made two temperature errors:

globally the Earth warmed by about 5C (41F)

No, that is an increase of 9 degrees F, not 41F.

they predict North Pole temperatures to be about 15C (59F) lower than the core shows

Same kind of error. That should be a decrease of 27 degrees F, not 59F.

You would think a science writer (?) for the BBC might know the difference. Remember, a change of 5 degrees C corresponds to a 9 degree F change. She just looked up 5 and 15C on a conversion chart. Can't do that.

[Publius6961]

This "climate change" crap is getting sillier and really tedious.

Can we at least agrre that climate change is not new?
All it takes to do that is to be warm, conscious, past the 8th grade and have had some smattering of the sciences... biology, chemistry and physics.

Then we can concentrate on arguing why the current changes are any different or more signficant than the hundreds of previous ones.

Then there's the whole other subject: if man set out purposely to destroy the world, could he do it? My position is "no". But I'm open to discussion...

[Mikey_1962]

Right up there with:

Y2K

Alar

The Coming Ice Age

[Rocky]

Today's warming of the Arctic can, in all likelihood, be attributed to mankind's impact on the planet

Sure, don't abandon the politically correct theory, even in the face of significant evidence in the article that global warming in the past has occurred without man-made emissions. This is a political hack masquerading as a science reporter.

[conservative physics]

natural processes operating in the past have also resulted in a significant warming and cooling of the Arctic....


ROFL ! it took ice cores for them to figure that out?

[Ditto]

"...and globally the Earth warmed by about 5C (41F).

Somehow it's a cold comfort to know that British journalists and editors are every bit as scientifically illiterate as their American cousins.

[MadIvan]

The geological record of the earth suggests that there have been swings in temperature so extreme that 90 percent of life on earth was wiped out by these changes.

Oh and sorry, that was millions of years before man existed.

Change is a norm of this planet's processes, not stasis. Environmentalists who believe that somehow we can achieve stasis in temperature through reducing human activity are peddling snake oil.

Regards, Ivan

[Pilsner]

My mother, who is from England, tells of using coal for heat in the old days. You sometimes found impressions of plants and animals in the coal. Not fossils, but visible outlines. She had a science teacher who proudly displayed a large collection these coal impressions, all of palm tree fronds, and other tropical flora and fauna, and all found in coal dug in Wales, Scotland and the north of England.

Climate change is real. Human driven climate change is shaky theory.

[Cementjungle]

I went hiking/camping in the Sahara desert (southern Algeria) and saw all the pre-historic cave drawings of animals and stuff in the forests/plains that used to be there. What used to be lush green land is now barren desert. This change all happened long before we had "modern civilization" with our polluting toys.

Global weather shift is nothing new.

[VOA]

bump

[Mike Darancette]

and globally the Earth warmed by about 5C (41F).

S/B (8F) idiots. They lose credibility this way.

[DeweyCA]

But we have been told by evolutionists that we live on a homeostatic, steady-state earth. That is why they can make such precise estimates of the past; because the present is simply a continuation and reflection of the past. If the atmosphere was a lot different, maybe that would mean that some of the assumptions for the dating methods that they rely upon are not totally justified. Flame on.

[jwalsh07]

Excellent news, environmental doomsday has come and gone. Not much doom though since we're sitting here discussing it.

[UCANSEE2]

First off, they have proved nothing new.

Of course it used to be tropics. It used to be where the tropics are.

The whole surface is a moving series of blocks, each block evolving as one end is created, the other end destroyed(sublimation).

The poles do not so much change, as they now speculate.

The surface below moves. The north and south magnetic poles are constantly 'moving'. (It isn't the magnetism that is moving.)