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Ms. Heard,

I'm a "decorated combat Marine." I think that EX-Marine Jack Murtha is a disgraceful piece of trash, as are you. Neither of you bothers with the slightest presumption of innocence, as both of your articles drive home again and again.

I hope my comments were among those in 119 that you found especially disturbing. Trust me, the feeling is mutual.

The difference, of course, is that one of us is actually familiar with combat.

1 posted on 05/29/2006 4:46:09 PM PDT by Coop
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This reminds me of all the trash the media put out about Lt Pantano. They had him convicted and all but executed before charges were even leveled by his coward of a CO.

But guess what? He wasn't convicted of anything, because the real evidence showed nothing of what was alleged. He was as innocent as the day is long.

/rant on! So Madame Heard, you can kiss my rosy red rear end! You are so convinced that the Marines are guilty without evidence being presented. What that tells me is you are convinced all of our brave service members are murderers, rapists, and the dregs of society. Stop transferring what you see in the mirror every morning onto our troops. They are light years better than you and your sniveling cowards in the media. /rant off


67 posted on 05/29/2006 5:25:33 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude
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We have heard false allegations about our troops before. When they become more than allegations by those who hate us and have some facts behind them I'll be first in line to shout foul.

In the meantime, based on experience....shove your story where the sun is not likely to be shining.


68 posted on 05/29/2006 5:25:53 PM PDT by Raycpa
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I would read this now, but my stomach is bothering me a bit and rumbling, and so I think I should go take a Murtha before I read further.
69 posted on 05/29/2006 5:26:33 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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Excerpted from another thread
Ms.Heard...

American soldiers are all living in fear in Iraq because they never know who is going to kill them and when. He saw children kill American soldiers, he saw women (young and old) kill American soldiers, he said that death was all around them and that they (soldiers) were just waiting for "their bullet".

War is a bitch, people die, and our soldiers are risking their lives so you can sit in a comfy office and spew your mindless, sanctimonious, self-rightous drivel.
STFU

74 posted on 05/29/2006 5:29:56 PM PDT by concretebob (We should give anarchists what they want. Then we can kill them and not worry about jail-time.)
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Ms. Heard:
Thank you for your antiAmerican and antiFReeper rant
which has made me realize ... that I missed the original post.

You and your disgraceful traitorous friends are not worthy of the freedom
which was fought by others ... for you.

Unlike the flag which adorns your sick column this Memorial Day,
America's colors do not run.

[If I told you what I really thought about you, I'd be banned.]


75 posted on 05/29/2006 5:30:32 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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..but I thought it was patriotic to ask questions. I geuss its only patriotic to ask questions when liberals ask questions.


77 posted on 05/29/2006 5:31:22 PM PDT by buckeyesrule
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A few of his co-posters rushed to the website of Murtha's Republican challenger Diana Irey to donate campaign funds.
How does she know that?
80 posted on 05/29/2006 5:34:26 PM PDT by philman_36
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Wow! This woman combines stupidity and thoughtlessness in new and exciting ways! She can't, or doesn't reason worth a darn!And clearly the last time she suffered an adrenaline dump was when something as meaningful and earthshaking as a fingernail breaking happened to her.

For some, and evidently she's one of them, compassion, understanding, and support should only be given to the enemies of the United States. Citizens and expecially those in the military, are guilty until proven innocent. Fabulous.

81 posted on 05/29/2006 5:35:11 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (If you find yourself in a fair fight, you did not prepare properly.)
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the words of theologian Howard Thurman who said "During times of war, hatred becomes quite respectable, even though it has to masquerade often under the guise of patriotism."

If someone is shooting at you or maybe killed the person next to you, 'hate' would seem to be not only an acceptable emotion but a necessary one...

Obviously this person doesn't know the difference between a game of chess and a war...This is one game you don't want to lose, sweetheart...

84 posted on 05/29/2006 5:35:40 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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The fact that this murdering troop has the support of even those 119 posters is worrisome.

I didn't read Ms. Heard's first column or any of the 119 replies to it here, but this writing of hers tells me everything I need to know about her and nothing about the incident or replies to her article that she is writing about.

Some of us just don't believe in the "verdit first then the trial" that she appears to believe in. Linda, how about we let the wheels of justice turn just a little bit and get some somewhat hard facts before coming to conclusions? Things like this is why people suspect that people like you hate the troops.

86 posted on 05/29/2006 5:36:00 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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Damn I wish I had said something so contravesrsal that Ms. Heard would have found it offensive. Well here goes.

Dear Ms.Heard,

I hope that you are reading this, and are fuming at the treatment such a leper in polite society as yourself is receiving at the hands of such rough men as those former Marines that care enough about our younger brethren to at least allow them the benefit of the due process of law before they are condemned for crimes they may not have committed. We are willing to wait and see what becomes of a thorough and just investigation into what really happened. I myself believe that when the truth is revealed we will find that all the civilians killed execution still will be proven to have been killed by gunfire from an AK-47's 7.62 rounds the same type as used by the insurgents and the Terrorist group known as "Al Queda in Iraq".

I don't come to this conclusion lightly either, I believe that those attacking this countries efforts in Iraq, like yourself will do anything or say anything necessary to destroy the good we have done there by removing one of the most murderous regimes on the planet from power. They would kill women and children to make us look bad, just as you would lie about and condemn those that have not even be tried for the lies you and Muthra are telling about these young Marines.

But there is another simpler reason why I don't believe you or Muthra, the type of total lost of command and control over a Marine Unit that would have had to had happened in order for a five hour massacre to occur just could not happen, in this day and age of almost instantaneous communication No Marine Unit would be able to function so indiscriminately for so long without any questions being raised. Beyond a doubt all communications between the Marines on the ground with each other as well as between them and their commanders were recorded as well any communications of the enemy in that area. Of course, leftest twit that you are, you wouldn't realise that our military forces routinely record all signal traffic in the area our forces operate in to find and locate our enemies.

Mr.Muthra knows this all to well since during the Viet Nam war it was his duty to gather such intelligence and present it to his commander so that his Fellow Marines could go out and kill the enemy, something that over the years may have slipped his mind while he attacks these young Marines for defending themselves.

90 posted on 05/29/2006 5:43:10 PM PDT by usmcobra (Marines out of uniform might as well be nude, since they can no longer be recognized as Marines.)
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Thank you for your service!

The trash she writes does NOT make me think anything less of any of our brave soldiers.

It is disgusting that they can not, for one day (Especially a holiday dedicated to ALL of our soldiers, past & present), write something so demeaning and demoralizing.

Thanks again and God Bless!


92 posted on 05/29/2006 5:44:25 PM PDT by proud_yank (A liberal's 'generosity' is limited to the funds available in someone else's account.)
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Coop. From deep inside. Semper Fi.


93 posted on 05/29/2006 5:44:44 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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I think you and Mrs. Heard and CO would appreciate this piece:

http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000125.html

I emailed it to her. :)


94 posted on 05/29/2006 5:45:51 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Amnesty_From_Government.htm)
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Military personnel should act as ambassadors for their country and behave according to international rules of law and the Geneva Conventions that were drawn up as a result of atrocities committed during the Second World War.
There should be a difference between real soldiers and ruthless thugs with public opinion the final arbiter.

Ms. Heard
I suggest that you take that thought and marry it to an action.

Go to Iraq immediately, and DEMAND that the insurgents start adhereing to the rules of the Geneva Convention or else you'll start writing stupid columns about them.
Tell Zarqawi that he should wear a uniform and fly the flag of his country.
Oh and BTW, you might also mention that he's never signed the Geneva Conventions and that it would be a good idea if he would go to Geneva, get the original copy, and put his name on it.
There, all settled, Happy now?

95 posted on 05/29/2006 5:46:01 PM PDT by concretebob (We should give anarchists what they want. Then we can kill them and not worry about jail-time.)
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In the meantime, my column had been posted on a well-known right-wing American website, where it attracted 119 comments. Oddly, none of them displayed any hint of disquiet over the behaviour of the Marines under investigation.

I doubt any of the comments in the Left wing blogs are coherent and reasonable. So we're not lemmings who will swallow your bilge and use every incident to criticize our Armed Forces.....how terrible of us.

98 posted on 05/29/2006 5:48:35 PM PDT by edpc
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The funny thing is, she complained about us attacking Murtha, but she attacked him as well, and for one of the same reason I attack him -- if he IS correct, he shouldn't be making excuses for the soldiers just to score political points, he should be calling for them to be punished appropriately.

Of course, I also blame him for leaking the report just so he could score political points. War should not be politicized, and war crimes should CERTAINLY not be used for partisan purposes.


100 posted on 05/29/2006 5:50:06 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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The fact that this murdering troop has the support of even those 119 posters is worrisome. Surely, nobody should defend the indefensible based on some false notion of patriotism.

That is one heck of a claim to make. I'll make another.

The fact that this child-molesting author has the support of even 10 parents is worrisome. Surely, nobody should defend the indefensible based on some false notion of friendship.

Do you see the similarities Ms. Heard. You can say lots of fun things if you don't care to justify them. Here's another:

The communist supporting, America hating, Palestinian loving, terrorist empathizing author was unavailable for comment.

Oh, wait, that isn't made up!

101 posted on 05/29/2006 5:50:28 PM PDT by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.--Adm. Rickover)
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Bumping this so we surpass the 119 posted comments.....btw Murtha is a POS....and if the author doesn't know what that means she can freepmail me....


102 posted on 05/29/2006 5:50:48 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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BUMPING the Thread to 119,000,000,000,000


106 posted on 05/29/2006 5:53:12 PM PDT by concretebob (We should give anarchists what they want. Then we can kill them and not worry about jail-time.)
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