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Fox in Tijuana: 'Walls are not the solution'
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 5/19/06 | Sandra Dibble

Posted on 05/19/2006 10:02:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

TIJUANA – They were just miles away but worlds apart, two presidents grappling with the thorny issue of illegal immigration from opposite sides of the fence.

As President Bush swung through southern Arizona yesterday, Mexican President Vicente Fox traveled to his country's northern border, speaking out against U.S. proposals for strict immigration enforcement.

“Walls are not the solution,” Fox said after sharing lunch with a group of factory workers in Tijuana. “And neither is the National Guard.”

Fox took advantage of his visit to two of Mexico's largest border cities – Tijuana and Mexicali – to signal his opposition to President Bush's plans to send 6,000 U.S. National Guard troops to help secure the border with Mexico. In his strongest criticism yet, Fox denounced a proposal for double-and triple-layered fencing along 370 miles of the border, which was approved Wednesday by the U.S. Senate.

In recent days, Fox has been harshly criticized in Mexico for not speaking out about the plan to send the National Guard to the border, a move that Bush proposed Monday. Mexican media have portrayed Fox's efforts to influence U.S. immigration reform as a failure, and Mexico's leftist candidate for president on Wednesday accused Fox of a tepid response to the military deployment.

“He has not the slightest intention of making an energetic protest,” Andrés Manuel López Obrador said during a campaign stop in the northern Mexican state of Sinaloa. “He is acting like a puppet, a plaything of foreign governments.”

Fox and his foreign minister agreed late Wednesday to send a diplomatic note expressing the Mexican government's concern about a deployment of the National Guard.

As his office prepared to message Washington, D.C., yesterday, Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbéz insisted “there is no chilling nor heating up” of the relationship between Mexico and the United States. The Fox government simply wants to make it “very clear that the National Guard should not be used for matters of apprehension or detention, not only of our countrymen but of any nationality that is crossing the border,” he said.

The Mexican president broached the topic of U.S. immigration policy at least twice during his visit to Baja California. His first stop of the day was Mexicali, just 50 miles west of Yuma, Ariz., where President Bush toured the border and expressed his support for additional fencing to slow the rising tide of illegal immigration.

Fox voiced his objections about the border fence during a ceremony celebrating the expansion of a truck plant, Kenworth de Mexico.

He praised the region's thriving commerce, and said fences were counterproductive to the interests of both countries.

“The construction of barriers at the border does not offer an effective response for a relationship between friends, neighbors and partners,” Fox said.

Later, in Tijuana, when he met with workers at the electronics maquiladora Plamex, Fox spoke directly – and sternly – to the American public.

“To those in front – I am referring to the United States – I want to tell you to be very respectful of Mexico, to be very respectful of the dignity of Mexicans, to not see them as lesser, and to not discriminate against nor violate the human rights of our dear countrymen in the United States,” he said.

Fox has consistently pushed for a guest worker program, and has urged the United States to consider amnesty for most of the estimated 11 million to 12 million immigrants living illegally in the country.

The legislation being considered by the Senate includes a measure to heighten control over the borders, but also creates a guest worker program and offers a path to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants already in the country.

Senate leaders say they hope for passage of the controversial legislation before the Memorial Day weekend. It then would have to be reconciled with an enforcement-heavy bill that the House of Representatives approved in December.

As the Senate prepares to vote, Fox plans to travel to California, Washington state and Utah.

Fox is scheduled to speak to a joint session of the state Legislature on Thursday in Sacramento, before attending a reception and dinner hosted by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. The Mexican president will then fly to Los Angeles on May 26 for a private meeting with Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa before returning to Mexico.

Schwarzenegger's office said his meeting with Fox would focus on shared economic goals such as increasing tourism and trade. California is Mexico's second-largest trading partner after Texas, with California exports to Mexico totaling $18 billion last year.

“I think the key thing is not to make the immigration issue overshadow everything else. There are other serious issues that we have to talk about,” Gov. Schwarzenegger said Wednesday in Sacramento. “We can all benefit by the more we work together.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Texas; US: Utah; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: borderfence; openborders; solution; tijuana; walls; wallsarethesolution
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To: NormsRevenge
Later, in Tijuana, when he met with workers at the electronics maquiladora Plamex, Fox spoke directly – and sternly – to the American public.

“To those in front – I am referring to the United States – I want to tell you to be very respectful of Mexico, to be very respectful of the dignity of Mexicans, to not see them as lesser, and to not discriminate against nor violate the human rights of our dear countrymen in the United States,” he said.

21 posted on 05/19/2006 10:18:38 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: NormsRevenge

Vicente has such a sweet deal going on it's unbelievable. All of your poorest and least skilled citizens voluntarily leave your country but then still send money back when they can. It's too bad Canada can't make itself awesome enough to create the same dynamic with us as we have with Mexico.


22 posted on 05/19/2006 10:21:01 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: NormsRevenge

They might not be "the solution" but we should build it anyway and then bill Mexico for the cost of US having to build it. Come on Vicente, CONTROL YOUR PEOPLE.


23 posted on 05/19/2006 10:21:02 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America! Where Bush or "global warming" is blamed for EVERYTHING bad that happens.)
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To: NormsRevenge
“Walls are not the solution,” Fox said after sharing lunch with a group of factory workers in Tijuana. “And neither is the National Guard.”

He's right about that. Cleaning up the corrupt, socialist kakistocracy that is the Mexican government is the solution.

You got your work cut out for you, Vicente!

24 posted on 05/19/2006 10:22:01 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sure Foxy, we'll be respectful, just as soon as we get the fence up and you begin to respect our laws...Until then, we will enforce our laws, and send ten million of your dear countrymen back to you to take care of. How about that?


25 posted on 05/19/2006 10:22:42 AM PDT by Concho
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To: NormsRevenge

For once I agree with Fox

If this administration wanted to end
illegal immigration, it would exchange those 6,000 National Guard troops for
6000 immigration agents with the mandate to enforce the laws that Congress
passed 20 years ago.

Victor Davis Hanson

Needs repeated over and over and over.........and I won't believe President Bush or Congress until they do this.



26 posted on 05/19/2006 10:23:58 AM PDT by sheana
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To: NormsRevenge
"It is from their foes, not their friends, that cities learn the lesson of building high walls and ships of war."

-Aristophanes

27 posted on 05/19/2006 10:25:33 AM PDT by jpl (Victorious warriors win first, then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.)
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To: NormsRevenge; al baby; martin_fierro; Toby06; Tijeras_Slim
Vicente needs his beeber stuned in a mucho grande way.
28 posted on 05/19/2006 10:25:35 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Some Dare Call It Amnesty)
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To: ArrogantBustard
...the corrupt, socialist kakistocracy that is the Mexican government.

Or (c) a kleptocracy or (d) all of the above?

29 posted on 05/19/2006 10:26:30 AM PDT by omega4412 (Multiculturalism kills)
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To: NormsRevenge
I want to know just why this SOB is addressing a joint session of the Cal leg? for what purpose
30 posted on 05/19/2006 10:27:35 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: omega4412

korrupt kleptomaniac kakistocracy?


31 posted on 05/19/2006 10:28:19 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NormsRevenge
.....“Walls are not the solution,” Fox said after sharing lunch with a group of factory workers in Tijuana. “And neither is the National Guard.”.....

Okay. So what is?

32 posted on 05/19/2006 10:30:04 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sure the walls won't stop everyone from illegally coming into the country, but at least it will slow it down to a trickle.


33 posted on 05/19/2006 10:31:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: NormsRevenge

Fox should solve his problems before he tries to burden himself with our problems


34 posted on 05/19/2006 10:31:18 AM PDT by soccer_maniac (Do some good while browsing FR --> Join our Folding@Home Team# 36120: keyword: folding@home)
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To: NormsRevenge

Right, Vincente. Cleaning up your hellhole of a country would be a better solution.


35 posted on 05/19/2006 10:31:50 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport (As the Democrat Party becomes more evil, the GOP becomes more stupid. What's a voter to do?)
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To: Diogenesis

What a terrible and awesome image. And beautiful.


36 posted on 05/19/2006 10:32:30 AM PDT by mother22wife21 ("Moral squalor does not remain stationary, it descends and it accelerates."- FreeperJasonC)
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To: NormsRevenge

A picture of the entrance to Los Pinos, the official residence of the president of Mexico.

37 posted on 05/19/2006 10:32:32 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: NormsRevenge

He is correct. The real solutions is shooting Fox and his entire corrupt government and instituting Iraq-style reform in Mexico, but we can't do that.


38 posted on 05/19/2006 10:32:36 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Tax-chick

They'll do until something better comes along.


39 posted on 05/19/2006 10:32:47 AM PDT by Maceman (Fake but accurate, and now double-sourced)
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To: Utahrd
What are the guys that shot Ceaucescu doing these days?

Did they ever get him? Last I heard, he was zigzagging through the courtyard, trying to evade their bullets.

40 posted on 05/19/2006 10:35:10 AM PDT by Migraine (...diversity is great (until it happens to you)...)
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