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Illegals granted Social Security (05/18/06-Senate 50-49 vote/based on past illegal employment ????)
Washington Times ^ | May 19, 2006 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 05/19/2006 5:13:02 AM PDT by IrishMike

The Senate voted yesterday to allow illegal aliens to collect Social Security benefits based on past illegal employment -- even if the job was obtained through forged or stolen documents. "There was a felony they were committing, and now they can't be prosecuted. That sounds like amnesty to me," said Sen. John Ensign, the Nevada Republican who offered the amendment yesterday to strip out those provisions of the immigration reform bill. "It just boggles the mind how people could be against this amendment." The Ensign amendment was defeated on a 50-49 vote. "We all know that millions of undocumented immigrants pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for years and sometimes decades while they work to contribute to our economy," said Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican. "The Ensign amendment would undermine the work of these people by preventing lawfully present immigrant workers from claiming Social Security benefits that they earned before they were authorized to work in our community," he said. "If this amendment were enacted, the nest egg that these immigrants have worked hard for would be taken from them and their families." Mr. Ensign was among 44 Republicans and five Democrats who voted to block such payouts

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TOPICS: Government; Mexico; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006; alien; aliens; congress; congressmorons; corruption; dnc; elections; gop; identitytheft; johnmccain; leaglizedidtheft; mccain; senate; socialists; socialsecurity; ssa; tax; taxes
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To: IrishMike
Maybe won't don't need a fence after all. Maybe we should have voluntary deportation with a carrot. Bush loves to hand out money. Just increase the national debt so we can pay illegals to go back to there own country after all it's just economic. Future enforcement would be handled by border patrol officers just giving potential illegals cash right at the border.
61 posted on 05/19/2006 6:13:44 AM PDT by one more state (The old bait and switch, the guard is the bait and Mexican Amnesty is the switch.)
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To: Realism
, so why can't they just enforce the law and punish those who break it?

Because it is an election year, and they have reasoned that the American people don't care. We really need to show them that we do.

62 posted on 05/19/2006 6:15:55 AM PDT by P8riot (Stupid is forever. Ignorance can be fixed.)
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To: texasmountainman
I'm 51 and I would take a lump sum payment of my Social Security Benefits and run.

I'm 43 and have been willing to for go SS since 23 as long as I would never have to pay in again.

63 posted on 05/19/2006 6:16:34 AM PDT by one more state (The old bait and switch, the guard is the bait and Mexican Amnesty is the switch.)
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To: cva66snipe

I don't think there is such a thing as the Congressional Pension Fund. The hororables are able to vote themselves lifetime payments out of the general accounts of the US and be certain their successors will continue the raid.


64 posted on 05/19/2006 6:18:17 AM PDT by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: Nightrider
i've said it once, i'll say it again: "what's the difference between a democrat and a republican?"

Leadership wise simply this. One party is very upfront about being Liberals who want to sell us out. They make no pretense otherwise. The only thing to their credit IMO. We call them Democrats. The other party uses scare tactics about the DEM Liberals to get themselves reelected, calls itself conservative, votes Liberal, and purposefully lies to and misleads the voters before selling us out. We call them Republicans.

Somewhere in between the two are leaders who have the nations best interest at heart. Even though they dwell within the ranks of both parties and outside the two party system they are hated by both DEM's and Republicans alike. They are a threat to the shared Socialist agenda now being touted by the two major parties.

65 posted on 05/19/2006 6:20:27 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: workerbee

I wanted to send this article and some commentary to my Congresscritter, then I remembered: I am represented by "the honourable Harold Ford, Jr." No hope that I can sway his opinion. I'm not his sort of person.


66 posted on 05/19/2006 6:21:20 AM PDT by Ingtar (Prensa dos para el inglés)
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To: IrishMike
"We all know that millions of undocumented immigrants pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for years and sometimes decades while they work to contribute to our economy," said Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican.

Sen. John McCain for President . . . of Mexico!

67 posted on 05/19/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: harpu

I left out the crying man: Voinovich (R-OH)


68 posted on 05/19/2006 6:22:14 AM PDT by kabar
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To: 4integrity

Congress is hearing from us.

I am glad I have two of the best Cornyn and Hutchison in Senate!


69 posted on 05/19/2006 6:22:25 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A. and the Troops who protect her.)
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To: Ingtar

I can't figure out TN's senators (Alexander, Frist). Voted FOR the amnesty yesterday, but AGAINST this. Covering their tracks?

BTW, isn't Junior posing as a border hawk, like all otehr things conservative?


70 posted on 05/19/2006 6:23:34 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: zerosix

Sen. John McCain for President . . . of Mexico!


That would make a great tag line (hint! hint!)


71 posted on 05/19/2006 6:23:50 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov
I don't think there is such a thing as the Congressional Pension Fund. The hororables are able to vote themselves lifetime payments out of the general accounts of the US and be certain their successors will continue the raid.

True there is and their isn't. A good description found here. i've said it once, i'll say it again: "what's the difference between a democrat and a republican?"

72 posted on 05/19/2006 6:24:49 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: IrishMike

SS is doomed, illegals or no illegals, so the outcome of this vote doesn't matter.


73 posted on 05/19/2006 6:25:39 AM PDT by Seamoth (Hemocyanin, chlorophyll, and hemoglobin.)
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To: IrishMike

That's it. We are unelecting these imbeciles. We will find out own people who care about America


74 posted on 05/19/2006 6:26:03 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: IrishMike

The sell-out of America.

The bush legacy.......


75 posted on 05/19/2006 6:26:36 AM PDT by WhiteGuy ("Every Generation needs a new revolution" - Jefferson)
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To: wardaddy

ping.

When is Alexander up for re-election? I've NEVER liked him. He's got to go.


76 posted on 05/19/2006 6:27:48 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: GarySpFc

I think they've lost their minds. November is shaping up to be a bloodbath.


77 posted on 05/19/2006 6:28:38 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: johnny7

I hate to mention this but can we sue the nitwits? They do not even contribute to the Social Security system and they
want illegal criminals to have it? There must be a way to stick these spoiled out of touch fops with some consequences. Waiting for an election will not work. There must to be away to make them accountable.


78 posted on 05/19/2006 6:29:43 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: riskybiz

Don't these CongressCreeps think? Don't the old guard know they are living in a time when people ask these questions and spread them around via email and blogs? They're still operating like we're ignorant and isolated and we can't figure out that what they're doing makes no sense and is counter to arguments they've made in the past.


79 posted on 05/19/2006 6:30:17 AM PDT by uncitizen (" We are a nation of NATIVES")
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To: Realism
Apparently these new voters coming on-line have more clout than existing citizens.

Bingo.

80 posted on 05/19/2006 6:30:28 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative = Careful)
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