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Town won't let unmarried parents live together
CNN ^ | 5/17/2006 | AP

Posted on 05/17/2006 9:11:44 AM PDT by bigLusr

BLACK JACK, Missouri (AP) -- The City Council has rejected a measure allowing unmarried couples with multiple children to live together, and the mayor said those who fall into that category could soon face eviction.

Olivia Shelltrack and Fondrey Loving were denied an occupancy permit after moving into a home in this St. Louis suburb because they have three children and are not married.

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To: bigLusr
Government gone wild. Nothing new.

The only thing worse than "big" government is local government.

61 posted on 05/17/2006 10:02:05 AM PDT by Protagoras ("Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious".... George Orwell)
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To: MBB1984
The town did what it wanted to do through its democratically elected representatives.

The representatives have no constitutional power to dictate who can live together as a family, and have sworn an oath to support the US Constitution as our supreme law. -- Thus they are restricted in this instance to reasonably regulating zoning issues, health & safety codes, etc.

If people don't like it they can either campaign to replace the council members or move.

Or, -- they can petition for redress against an unconstitutional law. [see the 1st]
This they will do, and win...

Frankly, unless one lives in the community it is none of their business.

Frankly, defending liberty is everyones business.

63 posted on 05/17/2006 10:04:08 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: bigLusr
"Marriage is just a piece of paper!"

So is a hundred dollar bill.

64 posted on 05/17/2006 10:04:21 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Or in Ladue?
In 1986, a Missouri appeals court upheld a similar law in Ladue, an affluent St. Louis suburb, after it was challenged by Joan Kelly Horn (D) and partner Terrence Jones, who lived there two years with seven children from previous marriages before the city ordered them out.

"It was, 'Get married or move out,' " says Horn, who later served in Congress in 1991 and 1992. "We were both pretty appalled." The couple married in 1987 - on their own timetable, Horn says. They divorced in 1999.

Cordially,

65 posted on 05/17/2006 10:04:47 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: TheCrusader

"A government without any religious moral standards is, well, exactly what we have today; a nation of lawlessness..."

If you think this is a nation of lawlessness you are asleep at the wheel. The problem is you don't like the laws. I have no problem with that. What you fail to realize tho, is the blueprint originally used to pass laws you morally agreed with is the same blueprint the looney left used to pass the laws you don't agree with.

They are one in the same, the only difference is the "who" that is getting to promote their morals. Individual morality should be cherished and valued, not forced with government guns. Otherwise, how does one earn their way into the kingdome of God?


66 posted on 05/17/2006 10:05:29 AM PDT by CSM (I went to the gas station this weekend and it was so popular that I had to wait for a pump. D-Chivas)
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To: HamiltonJay

"Federal law can trump this, ..."

Do you really want the feds to get involved in you neighborhood?


67 posted on 05/17/2006 10:05:42 AM PDT by Uddercha0s
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To: RadioAstronomer

"This town is full of Cr-p! "

I agree. That means we can move to the next town that suits more with our lifestyle.. pretty cool, huh?


68 posted on 05/17/2006 10:07:16 AM PDT by Uddercha0s
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To: Uddercha0s

I would not move to that town in the first place.


69 posted on 05/17/2006 10:09:04 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: bigLusr

does missouri have common law marriage by cohabitation?


70 posted on 05/17/2006 10:09:16 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Javelina

I was being polite and freaking politically correct.. I lost my mind.. what I really meant was illegal invaders? Do you like that better?


71 posted on 05/17/2006 10:09:22 AM PDT by Uddercha0s
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To: RadioAstronomer

Not to mention it is doubtful there are 90 foot dish antennas there for me to use. :-)


72 posted on 05/17/2006 10:10:07 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

I hear you.. and any of us that felt the same way would do the such. It's actually the way it should be but we've been beaten with "democracy" for so long that it seems absurd to us.


73 posted on 05/17/2006 10:11:31 AM PDT by Uddercha0s
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To: tpaine
The representatives have no constitutional power to dictate who can live together as a family

1. Define "family".
2. The representative's are not even purporting to dictate who can live together as a family. They have simply legislated certain occupancy requirements for living in Black Jack. There is no requirement for these people to live in Black Jack. There is, however, a legal defintion of the word "family". The burden of proof is on the one who wants to change it.

they can petition for redress against an unconstitutional law. [see the 1st] This they will do, and win...

Yes, they can, but they will probably not win. See #65.

defending liberty is everyones business.

Define "liberty".

Cordially,

76 posted on 05/17/2006 10:14:43 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Diamond
There's no requirement for these people to live in Black Jack.

See # 63
THere is a requirement in our Constitution that the officials in Blackjack support the Constitution as our supreme law.

77 posted on 05/17/2006 10:16:29 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: TheCrusader

"A government without any religious moral standards is,..."

Let me also add that the only reason the Righteous must turn to government imposed morals is because of the failure to convince the folks individually to follow the church. If the "Crusaders" did a better job, then the use of government force would not be necessary.


78 posted on 05/17/2006 10:16:31 AM PDT by CSM (I went to the gas station this weekend and it was so popular that I had to wait for a pump. D-Chivas)
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To: longtermmemmory
...does missouri have common law marriage by cohabitation?

Common-law marriage

(From Black's): A marriage that takes legal effect, without license or ceremony, when a couple live together as husband and wife, intend to be married, and hold themselves out to others as a married couple. The traditional common-law rule was that agreement to marry was the critical element in establishing common-law marriage. Recently, more states have incorporated the cohabitation and repute requirements into the notion of common-law marriage. Common-law marriage is recognized in all states, but can be entered into in only 11 states:

  • Alabama
  • Colorado
  • Iowa
  • Kansas
  • Montana
  • Oklahoma
  • Pennsylvania
  • Rhode Island
  • South Carolina
  • Texas
  • Utah

Cordially,

79 posted on 05/17/2006 10:19:53 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Javelina

Not an arguement, an example.. something because of today's news and issues, the basic sheep can understand. I don't care who it is.. 20 freaking elfs for all I care.. my whole point gets down to the strongest form of government (if we are going to have one) should be at the local level where we all really do have a say (we won't talk about corruption, power greed, money, good ol boys and such here). The next weakest government should be at the state level. Finally, the weakest should be at the federal level. Their tasks.. well, that's outlined in the Constitution...

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Protect our shores, ensure common currency within the states but otherwise.. get the he@@ out...


80 posted on 05/17/2006 10:21:08 AM PDT by Uddercha0s
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