Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
But who are you referring to...As you can see on this thread as well as most threads, the name calling comes from the self-proclaimed Bush defenders...They are the DU folks yer talking about???
Pukin, I appreciated this thread when I first read your article, but it appears you've brought some of the trolls out of hiding and into suspension! Congrats!
Send a postcard to let us know how your vacation is going.
Not true. But you catch more flies with honey then with vinegar.
So let's don't be divided. Do stand on the Constitution and for Conservative principles. Do not stand for a flailing Party that's lost their way. Pretty simple.
You're still posting, aren't you? Nobody gets banned for anything other than violation of posting guidelines. Youn know that. Now have a nice day.
You have a point about corruption from below the Rio Grande, and it makes the open borders scheme all the more insane -- unless we intend to invade Mexico and fix it for good. This Clintonesque nuttiness that reality doesn't matter, that it's just what you feel or your intentions that count...it's like a cancer, metastisizing all over the place. God help us, wishful thinking never solved a thing. The MSM simply changes the argument, defines it and controls it. We have to make sure they don't get away with it.
Actually, it is doomed when a majority of its population share your defeatist attitude. And for the record, could you point to who you think is a current "true leader" in this country?
"For all the talk on immigration on FR, I don't hear much of it at the water cooler."
Funny, I hear people outraged about it everywhere, especially since the "demonstrations". It was the topic of conversation just this morning among a group of construction workers having breakfast near me.
When you feel the need to leave, don't post an opus either.
Obviously you didn't read it. Or you didn't retain it.
Who is "they"?
I support all of the conservatives in the House of Representatives as well as the two in the Senate...Always have...
This is what the forum owner had to say about people threatening to leave the Republican party:
Well, if they're fleeing, they're obviously not "hard core Republicans." Probably never were. Hard core Republicans do not cut and run.
1,065 posted on 05/11/2006 5:22:34 AM EDT by Jim Robinson
I don't think many on here want a Mexican invasion or want the illegals to have free entry.
All of us are seeking workable ways to bring about change. Workable is the key word.
Personally, I'm beginning to feel we need to take over Mexico and make it a state. At least we would get the oil and then begin to get control over the mess down there.
LOL.
I certainly would never do that.
With America fighting a war against the forces of international terrorism, ALL Americans should support the President and our troops fighting Islamofascism around the world. However, we shouldn't lose sight of the the BIG picture. We shouldn't lose sight of the other issues that will have a serious bearing on America's future.
You will never satisfy the Bush cheerleaders. These FReepers aren't interested in advancing the conservative agenda for America. Right now they're more concerned with advancing the status quo domestic agenda of PresBush and the GOP Congress. That means more liberal spending, more welfare entitlement programs, more globalism and a continued effort to get a guest worker-amnesty program for criminal aliens as the law of the land.
These folks do a disservice to Free Republic, the conservative movement and the future of this great nation. The Founding Fathers created our Constitutional Republic for people to live in freedom, not bound by an all powerful central government. Two of the basic tenets the Founders promoted and that are at the core of our liberty, are the right to free speech and political dissent. When the people we elect to public office, do not uphold their Constitutional duties and/or political responsibilities, it is the right of the people to speak out. If those we elect as public servants, don't listen to the people, they should be voted out of office.
As JimRob has said many times over the years, Free Republic is not a place were the liberal agenda is advanced. Free Republic was created to advance the conservative agenda, cut big government down to size and fight bureaucratic fraud and corruption.
Many people see Free Republic as HOMEBASE for the Republican Party and President George W.Bush. It is not. When Bush and the GOP Congress makes the right decision and sticks to conservative principles, they should be supported. When Bush and the GOP Congress makes the wrong decision and moves away from the conservative agenda, they should be held accountable.
As far as I'm concerned, Free Republic is STILL the home of conservatism, conservative politics, conservative values and beliefs. FReepers hurt the conservative movement when they attempt to promote the political status quo in WashDC. Centrist politics and liberal politics SHOULD have no place on Free Republic.
This book has been mentioned to me before in this context. I may have to break down and get it.
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