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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: nopardons
Just attempting to get down to your level; pet, so that you are finally able to understand my posts.. And yes, I am familiar with your posting style.

Yes, yes, snookums, you said that already.

You are boring me, and I have to say I'm a little disappointed in your lack of wit today. Your responses are less than colorful, so I'm done with you now.

Now skitter away.

3,101 posted on 05/18/2006 2:37:05 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

"Where are the marches or other visible evidence the anti-Illegal side is so popular?"

The people that might be attending those marches are currently at work, paying their taxes, and taking care of their kids.

All those marches did was point up the severity of the problem. It also points up how completely idiotic they are, waving MEXICAN flags - criminals demanding equal rights.

Its testament to how politically deaf the GOP actually is - Can you imagine the issue ads you can make with all those morons marching, chanting 'Si Se Puedo', and claiming three US states as rightful Mexican homeland?

Its precisely that ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY - on display and MARCHING IN BROAD DAYLIGHT IN FRONT OF VIDEO CAMERAS - that the GOP pillories every election, and it gets middle class taxpayers who may in many cases be more socially liberal to pull the level for the republican.

Maybe your right, they aren't insane. Maybe just blind and deaf?


3,102 posted on 05/18/2006 2:38:55 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: dirtboy

Only a fool would claim working men are rabble. Those are your words. To me the rabble is uneducated layabouts looking only for a free ride. Those are the ones who should NEVER should lead.

Of course, I note your complete non-response to the FACTS I stated regarding the role of rabble in our history.


3,103 posted on 05/18/2006 2:41:54 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Perhaps you should read further before believing I am speaking of anyone we know.


3,104 posted on 05/18/2006 2:43:49 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: dirtboy

Good grief. Is there a word to describe this? Neofeudalist? Throw the Constitution and Bill of Rights out the window, our benevolent dictator is in the house, lol.


3,105 posted on 05/18/2006 2:44:31 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Only a fool would claim working men are rabble.

I'm a working man, and I am against Bush's proposal. So are millions of other conservative working men. Apparently to you it means nothing when we are opposed to Bush on this issue, and just think we should shut up and go away and let the elitists do what is best for us. They know better.

Of course, I note your complete non-response to the FACTS I stated regarding the role of rabble in our history.

Other than the fact that the rabble are often the ones who bear the brunt of bad government created by elitists who know better than the rabble and the working stiffs what is good for them.

The Founders earned their wisdom by fighting for their freedom. Our current crop of elitists seeks to stand on the shoulders of giants ... and pi** on their works.

3,106 posted on 05/18/2006 2:46:20 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Those marches should have made it clear to the sentient that the problem is the Party of Treason which organizes, promotes and peoples those marches. But Nooooo.


3,107 posted on 05/18/2006 2:46:32 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: CWOJackson
Great letter, CWO; well done! :-)

Thanks for posting it and pinging me...I had missed it.

3,108 posted on 05/18/2006 2:46:58 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: RegulatorCountry
Good grief. Is there a word to describe this? Neofeudalist?

No, globalist elitist works for me. When you know what is best for the world, the little people should just shut up.

3,109 posted on 05/18/2006 2:47:15 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: dirtboy

It was the "rabble" marching in the streets.


3,110 posted on 05/18/2006 2:47:18 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Those marches should have made it clear to the sentient that the problem is the Party of Treason which organizes, promotes and peoples those marches.

Then why did all but two Senators from the Party of Treason vote for what Bush wants in the Senate?

You never get around to 'planing that one.

3,111 posted on 05/18/2006 2:48:25 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
It was the "rabble" marching in the streets.

Illegal rabble. The folks you guy Bush wants to allow to stay here.

Thank you so much for making my point for me.

3,112 posted on 05/18/2006 2:49:08 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Did you ignore what the "rabble" means? It ain't anyone around here. It IS those sucking down welfare, popping out OOW babies and generally breaking down society at every opportunity. Don't let the dirty one convince you I am speaking of the lower classes or the working class.


3,113 posted on 05/18/2006 2:49:28 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: teenyelliott
Well, being unaccustomed, as I am, to having to lower myself to your level, I suppose that I failed, miserably, in my attempt to join you in the gutter. Oh well, you know what they say....water seeks its own level.

Why don't you just go back to your usual sex threads, or go join your banned pals over on clownposse? It's where you all belong anyway.

3,114 posted on 05/18/2006 2:50:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Thanks. A lot of retired and active duty CWO's are encouraging people to write the President and tell him that the loud minorities that always claim to speak for us don't. Please consider writing the White House also and telling them who speaks for you...it's time the President heard from the people who did elect him.

Then find two more people to write.

3,115 posted on 05/18/2006 2:50:34 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: justshutupandtakeit
It ain't anyone around here. It IS those sucking down welfare, popping out OOW babies and generally breaking down society at every opportunity.

In other words, Dem voters are what you are talking about with your definition of rabble. And what do those voters want? Why, what Bush just got from the Senate - and will now pressure the House to accept as well.

3,116 posted on 05/18/2006 2:51:05 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: dirtboy

Actually nowdays it is precisely the rabble which raises the RATS to power. Elitists who seek the best are precisely those we need more of not those kowtowing to the rabble.


3,117 posted on 05/18/2006 2:51:41 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

"Those marches should have made it clear to the sentient that the problem is the Party of Treason which organizes, promotes and peoples those marches. But Nooooo."

It's the party's job to make that point as loudly and clearly as possible. Have they done that?

You're making my point. . .


3,118 posted on 05/18/2006 2:51:49 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: dirtboy

I don't have to explain their behavior or their motivations. And don't care to try.


3,119 posted on 05/18/2006 2:53:48 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: dirtboy

While you need someone to help I ain't the one.


3,120 posted on 05/18/2006 2:54:31 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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