Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
You nailed it, Clancy. MANY are working here for the division and demise of the Republican Party and for their goal of a RAT victory in November.
Unfortunately, we've got some gullible, emotional folks around who are cheering them on.
Turning this country over to the left is UNTHINKABLE for any Conservative. There is no debate about that, IMO.
I'm talking about exactly that. Are you telling me DeWine didn't have an advantage over his challengers due to the party infrastructure?
You proved the point. Can you point to a single case where "the party" supported a challenger to their existing incumbent? (I'm not puting the burden of proof on you, it's just that I can't think of any case where "the party" was motivated to do anything other than milquetoastify a candidate the longer he stays on.)
I am NOT denying my cuplability, even in Ohio's election, which I can't vote in. Because in the past, I have donated to the GOP, which has funded people like DeWine and Specter.
That makes me guilty of supporting the machinery that is doing some things I don't want. It is also doing some things I do want (such as "nothing.") I perfer a party to do less, rather than more!
So I dunno what the answer is.
At the same time, the GOP threw DeLay under a bus, and would support McPain as their standard bearer if they thought he was moderate enough. So again, damnedifIno.
On 'immigration' (actually loss of control of border) the President is flatly wrong BUT as a president and as a person he is a decent man and good commander. We need not shoot our own if we can help it.
We have the House to oppose the pseudo-amnesty proposals of the President and the Senate. As long as we can keep and maintain the House, there will be no victory for the open borders crowd.
This is a chess game.
The President, intentionally or not, has the dems confused. They cannot say he is mean and discriminating against what they see as their salvation, the Hispanic voting bloc, they can only point to the House and its 'hardliners'. Then again 80% of Americans support the House's position on the border. So if the game is played right we can keep the house and cause the President to expand presence of the National Guard at the border.
For the astute political strategists out there in Freeperville, what would be gained politically if the President swung completely to the House position? What would be lost?
I can see it both ways. If he comes out strictly for a secure border and to the trash bin about 'comprehensive immigration', then he gives the dems a campaign issue and with his low ratings it may be enough to put the dems in control of the House should the President and his party appear too hardline.
If he takes the middle road as he has, he leaves it to the House to oppose the gradual loss of sovereignty.
It's a delicate situation politically and I would welcome comments from those with more insight than I.
Keep in mind that the President and Senate have confused border control and deportation of illegals with 'immigration'. This is not about 'immigration' legal or otherwise. It is about people that think they can get away with breaking the law.
It's too bad we have to be defeated in November, but we do. BorderBot self-respect, and yes, honor, demands it.
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Our Republic and our world canNOT well or easily afford such an event--and survive in anything like a Constitutional form. Shrillery would declare Martial Law in a flash at the least hope of getting away with it. There's a serious probability that future elections would be moot even if they were held. Consider this paranoid fantasy if you wish. But if you think so, then you evidently have not been reading the handwriting on the wall. And, you evidently are seriously underestimating her evil and her supporters in high places.
Allowing the DIMRATS to grease the slide to the global government even for ONE MONTH would be horribly destructive . . . for 4 years or 8 years would be unimaginably horrible.
That is the very purpose of some posters here. They're DICC's, paid and free lance.
Some people think higher taxes would be a well deserved lesson.
Some people think our troops deserve a leftist Commander in Chief.
Some people think that none of that matters if we can teach that President a lesson.
Some people think another Ruth Bader Ginsberg on the Supreme Court would be just what we need.
As for me, I thank the Lord every day for this President and his compassionate heart. I pray for him to find some comfort amidst the endless attacks coming from all sides.
It comes down to this - words have consequences.
And, we do not respect efforts to destroy from within.
So, in your disagreements, just make sure you show respect and that you do not use this site as a daily rant against your perceived complaint that the government is not 100% to your liking and that it is all Bush's fault.
It is very telling that we seldom hear rants about our congress - just the president. And, a great deal of what is wrong is because of the CONGRESS being wimps - not this president.
And that's just my two cents.
Good Post.
Election results this November will be very important. If it's a big win for the dems it will only reinforce the way they have split us. I hate losing, but especially to the media and the dems.
Thank you!!!!!!
No right minded conservative would even consider that it doesn't make a difference as to which party is in power. The left is anti-American, and wants to destroy us.
It's interesting to me that those who are screaming about illegal immigration and American sovereignty the loudest are some who are willing to turn the country over to a party that doesn't even believe in American sovereignty, let alone enforcing it at the border.
That is exactly where I stand too. Yet I proudly call myself a Bushbot and you don't. Wonder why that is?
They joined the MSM to prove how 'intellectually honest' they are. Damn the troops and everyone else who depend upon President Bush and his outstanding administration.
They want to show how smart they are. Bah, a pox on them all.
I do not recall which party held the Senate majority during their confirmation hearings?
Yeah, and according to our paper he's coming to Arizona to campaign for Pederson (running against Kyl). I plan to fight, here, to replace McCain in four years-- but with a conservative. Kyl is a good man and I pray he is re-elected.
As far as the part about It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democratic."
You'll probably take a little heat for that comment.
As much as it would despise me to do so (Vote Democratic) I did once.
Remember that scumbag pile of excrement Lowell Weicker?
Not senator anymore is he ???
I agree. There are ways to state complaints of policy without disrespecting the President or without putting all the blame on the president.
He is only one segment of the government. The congress that also does not support the president is the problem.
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