Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
"I would love a fence and I will fight for it - but I will not throw in the towel and give my vote to a democrat for anything."
Despite the threats and hyperbole, I don't think there are any conservatives who could actually bring themselves to vote Democrat, either. But, there is enough disaffection over illegal aliens and "amnesty-by-any-name" to cause a decent percentage of reliably Republican votes to just sit this one out, as far as the fall. The same thing happened to the first President Bush in 1992, over taxes. It can very well happen, and has happened before. Vicomte13 is just trying to point this out, and has a genuine concern that the Republican Party is going to suffer a setback that he really does not want to occur. You're more or less lambasting the messenger here, ClancyJ.
HEAR, HEAR!
You've been here since January of this year and unless you are a damned retread, you aren't the "expert" on all things FR; especially why people get banned.
True...all too true and why I asked the query I did.
Well you can live in a world where you do not see Americans doing stoop labor but I watched it all my life and watch my cousins still do it today.
You may not want to depend on imported food but how much you wanna bet you already eat some it now.
I offer to you that your little mini rant that all land that is farmed will be developed and never farmed again is a bit of a stretch. Maybe that might apply to your county but that is hardly the entire USA.
American's will do any job. You underestimate us all and our nation when you claim we will not. Do away with the illegal labor force and that will become more clear than anyone can possibly smear.
You can wish for a program that will see them come here do your stoop labor that YOU do not want to do and then see them go home but ask yourself this:
What mexican in their right mind would EVER go back once they were here?
No, no helicopters but seeing plenty of enemies of America in places I never expected them. Have seen traitors treated as heroes, leaks treated as rights, have seen a media totally against this president in every aspect.
If Bush is for it - they will do all to ruin it. Watch their stand on immigration change so that they are for the immigrants and "their rights".
It is more than just politics and Halgr had some interesting points. I too feel we are infiltrated from within. We see it in the schools which brings to mind the old Communist Manifesto where they laid out the plans of infiltration. I do remember the "infiltrate the schools". I also see the "take out God" agenda today.
"3) Bush 41 looking at his watch during one of the debates."
If I'm recalling the last days before the election correctly, President Bush (GHW) also said "he's crazy," in reference to Clinton, which got a lot of media play and effectively killed off what appeared to be a late polling swing to his favor.
But exactly what 'conservative" ideas do you espouse? Looking through your posting history I fail to see any ideas. I see a lot of rants and liberal-sounding claims to be a conservative, but I don't see any coherent thought patterns.
I believe your home page is meant to provide criticism of Free Republic. I find it insulting and demeaning. You seem to be an "agent provocateur". There seems to be the foul stench of decay and burning troll in the air.
IBTZ
Now Dear Heart,
Just because you haven't read all the evidence someone else has???
I know, we don't agree on this issue. Sigh.
Still love you and hubby to pieces, though.
...within the hot house produce trucks. Now THAT was some good parsley.
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LOL! I know. And yet some people believe that 100% control of any kind of contraband across borders is possible!
FreeRepublic is conservative website. We don't have the Republican Party's back. If anything, we're here to police the Republican party.
The GOP's leadership has screwed up big time on illegal immigration and they deserve all the crap that they can handle. The GOP does not deserve our support or our kind words on the matter of illegal immigration. They deserve our hash criticism.
You are way off base Dog and I suspect you know that.
LOL!
I'm only up to post 444, but your posts are thoughtful, well stated and civil. I appreciate your views.
As I said before - that messenger is not coming across as a team player. Not my fault - I react to what I see posted and I reacted to his comments.
I do not appreciate those that chose to gamble with the future of this country over an issue. We have too many real enemies and we cannot afford "sitting" out, or "teach the GOP lessons" tactics.
If I am wrong about him - again, I react to what he posts.
Actually, I don't believe everything about every conspiracy either.
And, I still support President Bush strongly. I hope the folks I know who've prayed with him and insist he's genuine are 100% right. But what do I know. I just pray and hope.
At least he's a 1,000% better than any other option available.
But having had to study so much of the puppet masters' own documents for 4 years in my job 1965-1969 . . . The basic outline of the NWO goals and strategies is NO THEORY to me.
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