Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
Because it's easier to operate in the corrupt environment of Mexico, then in Canada. Also, Canada actually tries to stop folks from crossing into the US illegally, while Mexico encourages and helps anyone and everyone in their attempt to enter the US illegally.
And no, I'm not trying to down play the importance of securing our northern border.
French-kissing in front of all us?
Get a room for chrissakes! ;^)
Maybe Mo can tell us about the Cronyn amendment that barely passed?
"They are going to get a big fence. Hell! I want a fence to. I think everyone does, but I doubt that will placate the most hardliners who seemed to have whipped themselves into a frenzy"
No, they're not.
They're going to get physical fencing here and there, and "virtual fencing" (which means "No fence") in other places. Which means that the immigration flood will MOVE, but it won't stop.
It also means that the leadership won't give people what they want, but is trying to tell people what they don't want is what they want, and will work. It isn't, and it won't.
The Republican Party needs to look the country in the eye and say "We hear you!", and say they're building a physical fence, from sea-to-sea, and then start construction. It won't nearly be finished by election time, but the BorderBots will have something to vote to protect.
As it is now, they've got nothing and don't accept what's been offered. They aren't going to vote for the GOP and we all lose.
Give them their fence, or at any rate SAY you are and build SOME of it, and don't be prissy about "virtual" - build a damned wall - it's cheaper anyway, and it's what THEY want. Give the constituency what it says it wants and be done with it. If you're going to alienate them, do it five years from now when you never get around to finishing it. Don't do it NOW, during an election year!
I've replied privately.
FOX News thinks it worthy of mention. They just did a piece on the PA primaries.
First time since the 1940's that 2 incumbents have been voted out of office.
It's a big deal here locally. Incumbents have been defeated by more conservative candidates.
LOL
Being middle class, I've got no choice, but to take whatever the elitists in DC toss my way.
Of course, if I had another zero at the end of my income, I'd be saving tens of thousands.
"I think a wall is going to be the ultimate outcome of this debate. But I am going to get medieval on the first FReeper who complains about spending if it happens, because that wall will cost some enormous dollars."
The Israeli Wall is 403 miles long. And it has been dramatically effective at stopping suicidal terrorists, who want to get at Israel in a worse way than any Mexican wants to get into the US! Putting an Israeli Wall 5 times longer than the one in Israel, along the entire US/Mexican border, will cost about $8 billion dollars.
Border Patrol says 3 million illegals crossed the border last year, and 1.1 million were intercepted and turned back. So 1.9 million made it in, many pregnant, having babies soon after getting here, etc.
What's the per capita cost of education, welfare, etc., for an illegal alien's children? Start multiplying it out, and an effective wall will save $8 billion the first year it's up. Also, an effective wall means you don't have to massively increase border patrol, which is expensive.
If that is the latest vote, it was to make English the National Language.
You're kidding? Canada has laws that prevents surveillance on these two centers...they protect them with their laws. Last I checked Canada was still refusing to share airline passenger manifests with us while insisting that we keep border crossing between the U.S. and Canada as open as possible.
"I have very little to add to this thread, but I don't want to see anybody throwing anything up. ;~D"
Yeah, don't YOU go throwing anything up, or it might be the HairballOfTheDog that bit me! Heh heh.
Inhofe had an English language amendment too.
Good post, PD. It has been disapointing to see FR devolve. I am guilty of rudeness myself. It accomplished nothing but more bad feelings. Hopefully your thread will refocus the troops. I know I will re-focus. Instead of bashing eachother, our immediate concern is stopping the inane senate bill. I will be concentrating on that. Again, thanks for posting..
bttt
So, is there a story behind the name Pukin Dog?
Sorry for the threadjack, but all I can think of is that the dog was puking when you signed up.
"Oh, it will, or I will certainly be banned."
Well it NEEDS to, certainly.
We're in a precarious situation, oil-wise, and we've got Congress pushing us deeper into oil dependency by refusing to let us tap our own Alaskan resources.
It's stupidity incarnate, really.
Not to mention immigrant families who own farms on both sides of the border, very useful for the marijuana/cocaine exchange.
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