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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: ohioWfan
I agree. But I've met an awful lot of lovable curmudgeons over the years. I think I have a high tolerance for it.

It can't be changed. I new about this particular aspect of the forum coming in and I accept it as part of being in the game.

One of the advantages to having lurked for so many years I suppose.
1,861 posted on 05/17/2006 3:08:39 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Vicomte13

Home Run. Again.


1,862 posted on 05/17/2006 3:08:49 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (You want my vote? I want border security and no criminals rewarded for criminal behavior)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I LIKE YOU!
1,863 posted on 05/17/2006 3:08:57 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
This happens every once in a while, like clockwork, FR has it's bitchfests.

It's good for us. I don't recall another thread where the Mods and Jim have been so involved. Kinda a glimpse into the lives of the FR gods.

1,864 posted on 05/17/2006 3:09:00 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Admin Moderator; Pukin Dog
I see we had a lively thread today. This happens every once in a while, like clockwork, FR has it's bitchfests.

Lively, yes, but we are hoping for more "life" tonight.

Bitchfests === is that sexist? :)

1,865 posted on 05/17/2006 3:09:37 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: CWOJackson

As I said, you know your mission. Send your letters.

That way the senators and representatives will get the message loud and clear: close our borders, north and south.

Thanks for your help.


1,866 posted on 05/17/2006 3:09:45 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Bella_Bru
Everyone will certainly be 'fine with the cost' directly, but it is those indirect costs that they don't see that will piss them off. Just like everyone has no problem with current military spending, because they understand what that is. I wonder how many people who use the 'drunken sailor' charge have ever run the numbers to see just how much spending outside of War, Katrina and Medicaid has really increased. Two of those three items were not exactly planned. Eventually, someone is going to get their pet project axed, and watch the bitching begin!
1,867 posted on 05/17/2006 3:09:45 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Lazamataz
Republican rule is most notable for its utter liberalism. From increasing the department of education, to actively flaunting border security, to massive spending in every area -- including freakin' prescription drugs -- I can barely tell the difference. Probably the Repub's best record comes on guns and SCOTUS appointments. Other than that, I see little reason not to bash.

Laz,

I would guess that almost everyone here would agree with your frustrations over the above issues. However, I believe there is one main reason Republicans allow these things to happen. That reason is the power of the MAINSTREAM MEDIA, It is surely the case that the power of the MSM has declined in the last few years, but the MSM has had and still has such power to influence the average voter, that the Republicans see that as a driver.

We have to continue to drive the MSM influence down. I believe there is no other reason Republicans give us the things that frustrate us. They do not have the way to counter the influence of the MSM. The MSM is the main reason so many still vote democrat. They (the MSM) will not let the true democrat be seen by the voters.

One of the ways we can continue to lessen the influence of the MSM is to support FR and not allow anyone to destroy it.

1,868 posted on 05/17/2006 3:09:53 PM PDT by saminfl (,/i)
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To: nicmarlo; Lakeshark
With the entire post??

There was a whole lotta truth packed in those words, nic.

1,869 posted on 05/17/2006 3:10:06 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Lakeshark

LOL. Are you going to demand pictures as required by posting decorum?


1,870 posted on 05/17/2006 3:10:11 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog
In four years, Bush doubled the GOP Hispanic vote. Who is to say that the GOP cannot continue the trend? Anything less then 80% Hispanic and 90% black vote, means that the Democrats LOSE. Can you dig it?

GW Bush is not running in 2008. The Hispanic vote is not one voting bloc or easy to define. Cuban-Americans vote heavily for the GOP. Puerto Rican-Americans vote heavily Dem. In any event, pandering to the Hispanic vote or the black vote by compromising your principles or even worse, approving a bill that could seriously damage the very foundation of this country goes beyond partisan politics.

If this pandering for votes results in the loss of support from part of your base, then the Republicans LOSE. Can you dig it?

Sometimes you can be too clever by half. It sounds like this strategery came from the brain of Karl Rove who almost lost the election to the most liberal senator from the most livberal state in country despite having a good economy and the advantages of incumbency.

1,871 posted on 05/17/2006 3:10:12 PM PDT by kabar
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To: pollyannaish; RummyChick

I used to love RummyChick's various Rummy oglings.


1,872 posted on 05/17/2006 3:10:16 PM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: Admin Moderator

>>a couple SM<<

Sadly I can't make the witty response that deserves in a thread with so many Mods watching... :)

But in all seriousness that's not a lot of you for the number of posters, threads and trolls...


1,873 posted on 05/17/2006 3:10:22 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: trubluolyguy

;-)


1,874 posted on 05/17/2006 3:10:41 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: RegulatorCountry

"Sign up to the FR board for the state of Connecticut, Vicomte13. I'm on a Mac myself, but the appearance and function of this site will be the same, one way or the other. I'll walk you through it if you want."

Yeah...but I just live in Connecticut now.
My heart is in a certain vale of Normandy, and at a certain lake in Michigan.
But I haven't been in either place for many years now.


I probably will let you walk me through it, if only to see what's there. Perhaps we should take this off-thread?


1,875 posted on 05/17/2006 3:10:43 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: ohioWfan; Lakeshark

And I responded with my thoughts.


1,876 posted on 05/17/2006 3:10:52 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nicmarlo
Easy there.....

I posted what we will be giving up in an earlier post to you. 5 or 6 points you will give up that you believe in if the Dems take over because of this split that the border bots seem to want.

Why do you think you won't be giving those up if you "punish the GOP"?

BBL tonight.......to be continued.......

1,877 posted on 05/17/2006 3:10:59 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Warren_Piece
>>The intent of your OP got lost in 1800+ posts. Let me congratulate you on an excellent post (and your anniversary). <<

somebody is having an anniversary? How did we miss that?
1,878 posted on 05/17/2006 3:11:33 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: CWOJackson
I do want the borders sealed...particular those that the terrorist have been using up north.

The terrorists have been using all four borders, not just the northern one.

1,879 posted on 05/17/2006 3:11:46 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Warren_Piece

Rummy's got IT. Pretty good at his age.

With that, I'm out of here for a bit.


1,880 posted on 05/17/2006 3:12:09 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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