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Mexico, ACLU Preparing Lawsuit Against US Over Guard Deployment(..bloodshed on our borders ?)
Sierra Times ^ | Wednesday May 17, 2006 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 05/17/2006 3:52:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

A representative from Mexican President Vicente Fox claims that if the US National Guard troops detain illegal aliens crossing the US-Mexico border, the Fox government will file a lawsuit against the Bush Administration in US federal court. There are some political observers who believe that the American Civil Liberties Union is preparing to assist the Mexican government in such a lawsuit. In fact, the ACLU sent a statement to the Mexican government regarding their stance on immigration enforcement.

As Congress moves forward to reform our nation’s immigration laws, the ACLU said the US must reject measures that threaten to increase the bloodshed on our borders. "Innocent peoples’ lives and liberty should not be threatened by this dangerous deployment," said ACLU Director Anthony Romero.

Following President Bush's speech on Monday night, the American Civil Liberties Union urged the president and congress to reject any measures that fail to uphold the letter and spirit of our laws and encouraged lawmakers to adopt immigration reform that protects the freedom and privacy of all in America. Conservatives are wholeheartedly in favor of upholding the "letter of the law," but it's the so-called "spirit of the law" that leads to the problems in the US on a multitude of issues, they say.

"Turning immigration enforcement policy into another military operation is not the answer. The president’s proposed deployment of National Guard troops violates the spirit of the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits the military from getting into the business of civilian law enforcement," says Romero.

Mr. Romero failed to mention how National Guard troops are routinely deployed fully armed for disasters such as Katrina or terrorist attacks such as 9-11. In fact, during riots and other dangerous incidents, Guard troops are deployed without hesitation on the part of elected officials.

(Excerpt) Read more at sierratimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aclu; alien; aliens; election; elections; mexico; nationalguard
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To: IrishMike

Mexico really has a sweet deal. They send us all their misfits and sue us if We don't like it. Time to sour the deal and kick the Illegal Alien Civil Liberties Union (IACLU) out of this country.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, doesn't PC only apply to the feds being used against OUR citizens?


21 posted on 05/17/2006 4:35:16 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: wolfcreek

That is my understanding.
Don't we use the National Guard for national and regional emergencies i.e. Katrina etc


22 posted on 05/17/2006 4:42:05 AM PDT by IrishMike (Dry Powder is a plus)
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To: IrishMike

Ya know, they should play this up. The more publicity the better. Have even more marches and protests and shout "Viva Mexico!" Because Washington obviously still hasn't gotten the message.


23 posted on 05/17/2006 4:43:06 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: pax_et_bonum
I teach ESL students in Texas and I've never encountered so much prejudiced hatred as from a huge percentage of my students, and it's all because I'm a white American woman.

I teach too. Exact same situation. Mexicans (almost no other countries represented) will NOT say the pledge to either the U.S. or Texas. Looks of disgust on their faces while it is said. I honestly believe the government does not have an idea how grave the situation is.

24 posted on 05/17/2006 4:46:59 AM PDT by de_tal_palo_tal_astilla
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To: Denny0205

Violating the "spirit" of an inapplicable law is never a problem.


25 posted on 05/17/2006 4:48:58 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: pax_et_bonum

Sounds like they have attitudes better held in Mexico than here. I presume you speak Spanish as well and know the kind of trash they are talking all the time.


26 posted on 05/17/2006 4:50:38 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: de_tal_palo_tal_astilla

My students stand and face the flag. They know better than to try anything else.

I can't make them actually say the pledge, and they don't.

I'm sick of it.


27 posted on 05/17/2006 4:52:07 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: muawiyah
Sounds like they have attitudes better held in Mexico than here. I presume you speak Spanish as well and know the kind of trash they are talking all the time.

I only speak a little Spanish, but enough that my students think I'm fluent. ;-)

My classroom rule is, absolutely: NO SPANISH.

ESL is an English class.

They HATE this rule.

:-)

28 posted on 05/17/2006 4:54:35 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: pax_et_bonum

Yes, of course. The most lamentable part about all of this is the American public's ignorance of the scope of the problem. They simply do not see it.


29 posted on 05/17/2006 4:56:38 AM PDT by de_tal_palo_tal_astilla
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To: de_tal_palo_tal_astilla

I wouldn't have seen the intense hatred had I not been in the classroom with so many of them.


30 posted on 05/17/2006 5:00:34 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: Beth528

well, the castro school gave all the third world a lesson on that....


31 posted on 05/17/2006 5:06:53 AM PDT by Nightrider
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To: IrishMike

Well if the ACLU can make up its own rules, perhaps we can make up some of our own. Deport the ACLU.


32 posted on 05/17/2006 5:17:23 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Illegal Aliens will take down the Democrats and Republicans and give rise to a new American party)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

No one should be surprised that the commies at the ACLU are supporting a 5th column movement.


33 posted on 05/17/2006 5:19:20 AM PDT by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: x1stcav
I wonder why nobody has ever capped a round into the vermin from the ACLU. What sort of anti-American pervs belong to it? Just wondering.

Aside from its core of DUmmies, socialists, wackos, anti-Americans, and outright communists, the ACLU is mostly scumbag lawyers who have discovered laws on the books that say they can be paid with our tax dollars to file suits that destroy all that is good in America.

I would not be surprised if true Americans do declare 'open season' on ACLU representatives -- and soon... But I expect illegal trespassers may be the first put on the "unprotected species" list...

Maybe no one in Washington has noticed yet, but...

America is fed up and angry!!

34 posted on 05/17/2006 5:21:15 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: pax_et_bonum

My students participated in an international web design contest where we placed in the final round. At that time, the other countries teams evaluated each others work and submitted comments. Our web project was based on immigration around the world. Well, as luck would have it, the Mexican team evaluated our site and we received nasty comments. A lot of "you stole our land." My students were from Cuba, Haiti, Jamaica and they were shocked. Although we had the best designed site by far, we lost first place due to their evaluation.


35 posted on 05/17/2006 5:23:34 AM PDT by debg
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To: de_tal_palo_tal_astilla

About the pledge...my Cuban and Haitian students in Miami said the pledge. It was the danged white liberal kids who refused to stand.


36 posted on 05/17/2006 5:30:32 AM PDT by debg
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To: debg

Their hatred and prejudism - and sense of entitlement to OUR land! - is huge.

Never have I had people hate me for no reason, especially once I've had time to be around them, but at least half of my students hate me. Hate me.

I've given them no reason to feel that way. Actually, I've done everything I could to help them.

Now I just teach and grade.


37 posted on 05/17/2006 5:31:16 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: IrishMike
"Turning immigration enforcement policy into another military operation is not the answer..."

Immigration enforcement? No, this is now about protecting our country against foreign insurgents. It is so much more than an immigration issue. It's a trespass issue.

38 posted on 05/17/2006 5:41:03 AM PDT by polymuser
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To: pax_et_bonum

"........and sense of entitlemen........"

That's the base of the Denocratic party platform.


39 posted on 05/17/2006 5:45:30 AM PDT by IrishMike (Dry Powder is a plus)
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To: IrishMike
This just keeps getting more bizarre. Mexico is telling us what we can and cannot do within our own borders and the American Communist Lawyers Union becomes their legal arm.

Contrary to what Bush proclaims (just as he says Islam is a Religion Of Peace), Mexico is not our friend. A "friend" doesn't act like that. Mexico is a corrupt narco-state actively subverting us. It is about time we marched our army to Mexico City again and throw out their crooks and put in our crooks.

40 posted on 05/17/2006 5:47:05 AM PDT by Gritty (What is going on is a sustained assault by Mexico on U.S. sovereignty - Mark Steyn)
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