Posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone
Baloney.
"To effectively accomplish that mission there would have to be an expansion of government so vast that the police state that many on FR fear will become a reality.
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1. We have cops on every street corner writing speeding tickets that could be checking I-9 records. A check that is allowed already by law.
2. The IRS and SSA already have the ability to identify most illegals via computer records. They are currently barred from doing so.
3. To say what you did is to say the law cannot be enforced, ever.
We can enforce the law and not cross into violating civil rights.
Si Se Puede!
susie
Tell us it's undesirable and then explain why. Tell us an alternative and sell us. But don't be telling us you can't do it because everyone knows it's not true. There's NOTHING we can't do. It's all about costs and benefits.
it is only a matter of time before a terror attack will happen again here in the US and will be brought upon by illegals.
"but recognize that it is not realistic to round up millions of people and send them home," "
Why not? If we can't send 11 million home, how about 5 million? or 2 million?
I mean to throw up your hands and not at least get rid of hundreds of thousands isn't right either.
He's right on both counts. He's wrong to the extent that he's implying that our only remaining alternative is to allow them to stay here and "earn" citizenship (amnesty by another name) over a period of years.
We must remove the incentives that draw and keep them here, including delayed amnesty. Then they will round themselves up and return to their native countries.
"(((((SIGH!!!))) No surprises here. It's all about the Hispanic vote and nothing more. It's all the Republicans and Democrats care about."
Well, you know those 11 million illegals as well as the legals can vote Democrat. But it probably wouldn't have much impact since we are a predominantly Republican country.
well it's taken Bush five friggin' years to realize that he needed to place the National Guard on the borders;
it'll probably take another five for whomever the next POTUS that after the illegals who are already here cannot get jobs are going to deal drugs, steal, rob, burglarize or whatever it takes to stay here...I hear MS13 is looking for new members.
SO BUSH BETTER PLAN ON DEPORTING THESE PEOPLE NOW!
And of course they would require mucho dineros (just looking to set someone off) in taxes.
I always liked him. Too bad he's not running in 2008.
If Bush says this tonight, it's the kiss of Death for the GOP.
Better he should say we are putting the Illegals on "30-day eviction notice". LEAVE or we will hunt you down, find, fine and deport you and not allow you to ever become a US citizen.
For the love of God and Country, President Bush, please show some spine tonight.
sw
It hardly matters who we replace them with. If we go with the amnesty/citizenship plan, republicans (at least conservative ones) will stop winning elections anyway.
susie
Sure we can.
We just can't do it without (valid!) comparisons to Nazi concentration camps, massive threats to civil liberties, etc.
We can make 'em miserable enough to self-deport, though.
It was a Ted Kennedy bill (Immigration Reform Act) in 1965 that threw out all logic and reason and opened the floodgates by raising our annual legal immigration level to 1 million. Before that we had a well thought out legal immigration program.
Forty years later it is Ted Kennedy's amnesty (aka. guest worker) scheme that the President is so enamored with. Sure, he may throw in a few things to shut conservatives up or fool the most gullible, but at its heart it is still the Kennedy bill.
Why is our immigration policy being set by Ted Kennedy? Is anyone surpised that our immigration situation is such a mess? What insanity possesses the President and the Republican-controlled Senate that they want to pass another Kennedy-designed immigration scheme?
You & I are in complete agreement with this order of process. One thing I would add is a monetary incentive for enforcement, similar to the WoD. Once there was some money in the kitty, you'd see state/local LEOs jumping over themselves to apprehend illegals.
But do legal Hispanics care about illegals, if I was legal I would not like illegals.
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