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BUSH: WE CAN'T BOOT 11M ILLEGALS
NY Post ^ | 5/15/06

Posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: abseaman
I have a better idea

Baloney.

81 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:44 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: misterrob

"To effectively accomplish that mission there would have to be an expansion of government so vast that the police state that many on FR fear will become a reality.
"

1. We have cops on every street corner writing speeding tickets that could be checking I-9 records. A check that is allowed already by law.

2. The IRS and SSA already have the ability to identify most illegals via computer records. They are currently barred from doing so.

3. To say what you did is to say the law cannot be enforced, ever.

We can enforce the law and not cross into violating civil rights.


82 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:50 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: areafiftyone
Bush: We can't boot 11 million illegals

Si Se Puede!

susie

83 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:52 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: areafiftyone
I hate to hear my leader saying CAN'T. It's too hard.

Tell us it's undesirable and then explain why. Tell us an alternative and sell us. But don't be telling us you can't do it because everyone knows it's not true. There's NOTHING we can't do. It's all about costs and benefits.

84 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:57 AM PDT by DManA
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To: fatnotlazy

it is only a matter of time before a terror attack will happen again here in the US and will be brought upon by illegals.


85 posted on 05/15/2006 6:06:04 AM PDT by Halls (One Proud Texas Momma!!)
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To: areafiftyone

"but recognize that it is not realistic to round up millions of people and send them home," "

Why not? If we can't send 11 million home, how about 5 million? or 2 million?
I mean to throw up your hands and not at least get rid of hundreds of thousands isn't right either.


86 posted on 05/15/2006 6:06:05 AM PDT by Brooklyn Kid (What's it to ya? ) ((....west of the Jordan, east of the Rock of Gibraltar.................))
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To: areafiftyone
"We must reject amnesty, but recognize that it is not realistic to round up millions of people and send them home," said White House spokeswoman Maria Tamburri in a preview of Bush's speech.

He's right on both counts. He's wrong to the extent that he's implying that our only remaining alternative is to allow them to stay here and "earn" citizenship (amnesty by another name) over a period of years.

We must remove the incentives that draw and keep them here, including delayed amnesty. Then they will round themselves up and return to their native countries.

87 posted on 05/15/2006 6:06:20 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: areafiftyone

"(((((SIGH!!!))) No surprises here. It's all about the Hispanic vote and nothing more. It's all the Republicans and Democrats care about."

Well, you know those 11 million illegals as well as the legals can vote Democrat. But it probably wouldn't have much impact since we are a predominantly Republican country.


88 posted on 05/15/2006 6:06:35 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats = The Culture of Treason)
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To: areafiftyone

well it's taken Bush five friggin' years to realize that he needed to place the National Guard on the borders;
it'll probably take another five for whomever the next POTUS that after the illegals who are already here cannot get jobs are going to deal drugs, steal, rob, burglarize or whatever it takes to stay here...I hear MS13 is looking for new members.

SO BUSH BETTER PLAN ON DEPORTING THESE PEOPLE NOW!


89 posted on 05/15/2006 6:06:42 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: areafiftyone
No, he's right. The effort to round up 11 million illegals --of course a certain segment of Dubya bashers insist it is 20 million-- would be costly to the economy , and individual freedom (Your tailight was out Mr. Sanchez. You don't have a birth certificate with you? I'll have to take you in while we check things out. Don't worry. When the National I.D. Law is passed these hassles will end.)

And of course they would require mucho dineros (just looking to set someone off) in taxes.

90 posted on 05/15/2006 6:06:47 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: CodeToad

I always liked him. Too bad he's not running in 2008.


91 posted on 05/15/2006 6:06:52 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
Bush is a lost cause.

The only thing we can hope for now is that the next Republican President will have the guts to see the problem for what it is - a massive illegal invasion of our borders in collusion with the government of Mexico, and is willing to risk the anger of the Hispanic community to do something about it.

Until we get someone in the Oval Office who isn't afraid of a little political heat, nothing is going to change.
92 posted on 05/15/2006 6:06:53 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Support American sovereignty - boycott employers of illegal aliens)
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To: areafiftyone
"President Bush will tell Americans that it's impossible to deport the estimated 11 million illegal aliens living here."

If Bush says this tonight, it's the kiss of Death for the GOP.

Better he should say we are putting the Illegals on "30-day eviction notice". LEAVE or we will hunt you down, find, fine and deport you and not allow you to ever become a US citizen.

For the love of God and Country, President Bush, please show some spine tonight.

sw

93 posted on 05/15/2006 6:07:12 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife ("He who tries to please all, pleases none)
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To: areafiftyone

It hardly matters who we replace them with. If we go with the amnesty/citizenship plan, republicans (at least conservative ones) will stop winning elections anyway.
susie


94 posted on 05/15/2006 6:07:21 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: areafiftyone

Sure we can.

We just can't do it without (valid!) comparisons to Nazi concentration camps, massive threats to civil liberties, etc.

We can make 'em miserable enough to self-deport, though.


95 posted on 05/15/2006 6:07:40 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: OpusatFR
the Hagel-Martinez bill would increase the annual flow of legal immigrants into the U.S. to more than 2 million from roughly 1 million today,

It was a Ted Kennedy bill (Immigration Reform Act) in 1965 that threw out all logic and reason and opened the floodgates by raising our annual legal immigration level to 1 million. Before that we had a well thought out legal immigration program.

Forty years later it is Ted Kennedy's amnesty (aka. guest worker) scheme that the President is so enamored with. Sure, he may throw in a few things to shut conservatives up or fool the most gullible, but at its heart it is still the Kennedy bill.

Why is our immigration policy being set by Ted Kennedy? Is anyone surpised that our immigration situation is such a mess? What insanity possesses the President and the Republican-controlled Senate that they want to pass another Kennedy-designed immigration scheme?

96 posted on 05/15/2006 6:07:45 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Fithee
You can start with any politician both DEM and REP who have graduated from the big Ivy league schools...the Yalies and Havard types especially....any politicians who are CFR types or go to South Carolina every year for that "political families"(?I don't remember thename of it) convention they have each year. Identify which of our politicians go to the Bilderberger conferences of both political parties. Finally get rid of any politician who uses that inane line"jobs that Americans don't want to do".
97 posted on 05/15/2006 6:07:57 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: areafiftyone
Those workers come into the country and do jobs we won't do, then they get on the welfare system and we need to import more that won't do the jobs Americans won't do and the first round of illegals won't do and the beat goes on.
98 posted on 05/15/2006 6:07:59 AM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids (Mr Whipple says, please don't squeeze the koran)
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To: axes_of_weezles

You & I are in complete agreement with this order of process. One thing I would add is a monetary incentive for enforcement, similar to the WoD. Once there was some money in the kitty, you'd see state/local LEOs jumping over themselves to apprehend illegals.


99 posted on 05/15/2006 6:08:02 AM PDT by lemura
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To: areafiftyone

But do legal Hispanics care about illegals, if I was legal I would not like illegals.


100 posted on 05/15/2006 6:08:05 AM PDT by mel
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