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“The President has an opportunity to reach beyond the elites and identify with the American people and commit to these things,”

Fat chance.

1 posted on 05/13/2006 1:06:42 AM PDT by wotan
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To: wotan

Right...aint gonna happen. Keep those emails and calls going to DC folks! We havent lost...yet.


2 posted on 05/13/2006 1:09:45 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: wotan
Sometimes I get the impression the Democrats are more interested in their own power than in what is best for America.


4 posted on 05/13/2006 1:11:41 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: wotan
Senate and House Republicans clash on the best way to deal with immigration reform.

Enforce the laws! Close the borders. No amnesty. Illegals are lawbreakers and need to return to their own Country.

Case closed!

5 posted on 05/13/2006 1:14:40 AM PDT by jan in Colorado (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum (If you wish for peace, prepare for war.))
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To: wotan

Gingrich said he believes the provision in the Senate bill allowing 11 million people to stay in the United States could actually balloon to three times that amount.

“If there is an honest debate about how many million people will be given a chance to come to America under the Senate bill, we’re told the number is between 30 million and 36 million people,” he said. “When the average American learns that, they are going to be furious if the Senate Republicans allow that kind of bill out of the Senate.

“The Senate bill expands substantially who can be brought in as a member of the family,” he added. “So you take 11 million and add the other people, and we believe the real number is between 30 million and 36 million.”


6 posted on 05/13/2006 1:16:30 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick)
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To: wotan

Excuse me .. why is it ALL the responsibility of the President ..?? What's wrong with the rest of them ..??


7 posted on 05/13/2006 1:20:34 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: wotan

There once was a President Bush
The Invader of the Hindu Kush
Who unlike Vietnam
Quickly conquered Saddam
But at home he's got his head up his tush


8 posted on 05/13/2006 1:26:16 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: wotan

Bush and the Senate are pulling the old bait and switch.


12 posted on 05/13/2006 1:46:47 AM PDT by one more state (The old bait and switch, the guard is the bait and Mexican Amnesty is the switch.)
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To: wotan

I read somewhere that the record for one anchor baby was a shocking 150 additional vermin.


13 posted on 05/13/2006 2:13:00 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: wotan

Isn't the problem that the President isn't reaching out to the elites?

They get all hot and bothered when the President champions individual rights, such as more control over one's social security accounts, private medical savings accounts, and other parts of his agenda.


16 posted on 05/13/2006 2:22:21 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: wotan

Well, now, wait a minute. Isn't Congress close to voting yet on another increase in the debt limit? Do the congresscritters have some sort of pension plan that they get no matter what? Are they basically voting to encumber you and your children and grandchildren in debt forever?

Shucks, I'da thought the dems were in power...


18 posted on 05/13/2006 2:38:41 AM PDT by djf (Bedtime story: Once upon a time, they snuck on the boat and threw the tea over. In a land far away..)
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To: wotan

Drifting?! ROFLMAO.. Kinda more looks to me like full boar and engines wide open - rooster tail and all. Damn the base and America, full speed ahead.

Republicans: Good on national Defense and rule of law...

.. unless money is involved.

paid for by the elect an independant for president group..

lol.


20 posted on 05/13/2006 3:12:34 AM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: wotan
Do you not worry that a fragmented conservative base has allowed itself to become marginalized and isolated around polarized perspectives? For example, the voice of main street conservatives is clear. Obviously, main street wants tough immigration policies. Business (the money) and Republican elites want a guest worker program and amnesty. Generally, I think the President has done a reasonably good job of trying to occupy the middle ground on really difficult issues. He understands the need to keep business and money on side (Rupert Murdoch notwithstanding). Ironically President Bush runs hard to the right but has governed from the center. Clinton ran hard to the left but governed to the center under pressure from a Republican congress. Hilarity will run hard to the right and govern on the left.
30 posted on 05/13/2006 5:13:01 AM PDT by spatso
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Sadly, I agree that you are probably right. However, Bush has backed down before when it was obvious that his choices were ill-conceived. And he has done this with far less pressure from his base than he is receiving from the immigration issue.

We can only hope.
38 posted on 05/13/2006 6:57:17 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: wotan

Troops On The Border?http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/


56 posted on 05/13/2006 9:14:50 AM PDT by AliVeritas (The beatings will continue until morale improves.)
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I don't look for anything good out of the President's speech on Monday. I suspect he will push the Senate Bill, but make a big deal of "enforcement" - which will never happen on his watch. It never has to now.

Bush has always been for "expanding" the GOP. For some odd reason he thinks importing tens of millions of socialist-minded third-worlders from Mexico and Latin America will somehow bulge GOP ranks and coffers.

IMHO he also thinks his ability to speak Spanish has made him wiser than the rest of us in these matters. I think it has colored his judgment. He thinks because he speaks the same language as the invaders they will remain on friendly terms and are "just family". Also, I believe he is influenced by his wife on this issue (she tends to be socially Liberal, I believe). Plus, his brother Jeb has a Mexican wife. No doubt this relationship also affects his judgment.

If Bush were to truly be in the center, he would be strongly pushing border enforcement (as are most Americans) and no amnesty for illegals (also the position of most Americans). He is not. So, he will continue to throw useless platitudes at closing the borders while winking about 30 or 35 million new dirt-poor socialists to be let into this country to do Lord knows what, all the while asking how we expect to round up and "deport" 12 million people - as if Mexico hasn't figured out how to deport them to us!

What we are going to do with these new tens of millions of undereducated, non-English speaking peoples (other than put most of them on welfare) when they get here and have to obey our laws for a change and not work under the table living 20 to a trailer? Are they all of a sudden going to be "Americans"? There's no way they can be educated or assimilated. They will financially break our country, hugely increase our already struggling resident underclass, overwhelm our social services and largely reject our culture for their own. And that's if they decide not to LaRaza a quarter of the country back to Mexico.

Of course, "we" will have cheap pool boys, gardeners, nannies and lettuce pickers for a short while (until they figure out either how to scam the system or vote themselves rich). And the Democrats will have a ticket to political power until they can finally destroy this country forever by economically breaking it and ultimately turning it over to the Islamists.

Yugoslavia, here we come - if we're lucky! Otherwise, it is possible civil war ending with being forceably joined to the Ummah.

We are in a war folks, not only for the survival of our country from Islam, but the survival of our Constitution Republic and freedoms which stand in the way of the political power of the globalists, the greedy and the shortsighted.

61 posted on 05/13/2006 10:53:07 AM PDT by Gritty (Amnesty will change us from being a neighbor of Latin America to becoming a part of it-Diana West)
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To: AmericaOne
I'm not into victimhood, defeatism, thumb-sucking, and retreat.

Not my style.

I say, we shift into fourth gear and blow the doors off Pelosi's and Reid's little blue clown car.

Forward! No retreat!!

Try it. Make the decision and notice how much better you feel INSTANTLY.

73 posted on 05/13/2006 12:04:30 PM PDT by JCEccles
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With Senate Republicans “drifting toward disaster” on immigration, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said it’s up to President Bush to reconnect with the majority of Americans who support a strong enforcement-first approach.

Newt, you're getting closer but you made a mistake at the end. The majority of Americans don't support an "enforcement-first approach", they support an enforcement only approach.
80 posted on 05/13/2006 12:38:25 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: wotan

I fear that Monday's speach will be nothing more than "Come on Congress, get it together and pass my immigration bill". This of course will solve nothing.


87 posted on 05/13/2006 1:32:13 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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Again. Some of these threads are days, even weeks old. Why are they being brought back to the top?


108 posted on 05/24/2006 10:53:59 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (When Ted Kennedy and HRC support you Mr. President, it's time for some soul searching)
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