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Sources: Bush Plans National Guard on Border..
Drudge Report ^ | May 12, 2006 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 05/12/2006 9:18:12 AM PDT by xjcsa

Headline only so far...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderenforcement; borderlist; bordersecurity; bush; howlermonkeys; morebushbashing; nationalguard
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To: Mo1

"And who's fault is that??

Grey Davis maybe?"


immigration enforcement and border security is a FEDERAL RESPONSIBILITY


I guess you flunked political science in school. LMAO


401 posted on 05/12/2006 12:55:28 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: VanDeKoik
He does somthing = Dont listen to it. Its a token gesture. Do people want somthing done or do they just want to complain?

No, it's because people want something EFFECTIVE done. If he had proposed a wall with a definite timeline then you would see a totally different response.

402 posted on 05/12/2006 12:56:36 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: VanDeKoik
The latter for many. Some of these folks will be disappointed if the President hears the message and acts. They'll have to be mad at somebody else.

You can tell who is who on this thread.........who really cares about getting something done, and who just wants to gripe.

403 posted on 05/12/2006 12:56:43 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: kellynla
I guess you flunked political science in school. LMAO

No .. they states flunked and now they want the Feds to bail them out

404 posted on 05/12/2006 12:56:48 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: defenderSD

yea, well I won't be holding my breath over here waiting for you to accept the costs that are documented and admitting that your opinion is wrong.


405 posted on 05/12/2006 12:57:18 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: xjcsa

Somehow I doubt that Bush has totally reversed his position on immigration. I fear that this will be some deal like 3 border guards covering 2,000 miles of border as an attempt to appease those of us who don't want to give our country to Mexicans. I hope I'm wrong and Bush has somehow changed his mind.


406 posted on 05/12/2006 12:58:34 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: nmh
Now, how about DEPORTING ILLEGALS?

One step at a time...and the most important one first: Stopping the existing problem from getting any worse.

Plug the hole in boat, then start bailing it out. And by the way, the bailing it out part is going to be very problematic.

Again, first things first.

407 posted on 05/12/2006 12:58:51 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: ohioWfan
Why do these people not lay any of the blame on them?

Because they don't want to take responsibility for what their states did

It's easier to blame Bush

408 posted on 05/12/2006 12:59:40 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: ohioWfan
You can tell who is who on this thread.........who really cares about getting something done, and who just wants to gripe.

A lot of the people that you say are "griping" DO care about getting something done. They're not about to give the President a pass just because he pretends to be doing something, or does something ineffective just to try to shut up his critics or placate the more gullible members of the Republican base. They want something REALLY to be done. Actions, not just words.

409 posted on 05/12/2006 1:00:08 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: BJungNan
One step at a time...and the most important one first: Stopping the existing problem from getting any worse.

Indeed. I believe that most would even accept some sort of earned amnesty after the wall was built and the border secure.

Without a wall, no other measure is going to be effective or accepted.

410 posted on 05/12/2006 1:01:11 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Mo1

well you are wrong, because border security and immigration are under FEDERAL JURISDICTION.

and if you don't have the stones to admit when you're wrong then thats YOUR PROBLEM.


411 posted on 05/12/2006 1:01:22 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Without a wall, no other measure is going to be effective or accepted.

You really need that wall to beat your head against don't you?

412 posted on 05/12/2006 1:02:06 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: BJungNan
by the way, the bailing it out part is going to be very problematic.

LOL

Kelly another one. Personally I see the opposite as being the case.

413 posted on 05/12/2006 1:02:14 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Make them legal one more time. Yes this plan will work. <sarcasm>)
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To: kellynla
Take a break pal. When you're in my league as an economic analyst, I'll let you know.

When other people are telling you how smart you are, that's when you can start lecturing me. Until then, pipe down son.

414 posted on 05/12/2006 1:03:01 PM PDT by defenderSD (¤¤ Wishing, hoping, and praying that Saddam will not nuke us is not a national security policy.)
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To: ohioWfan
Speaking for myself, I have lost the respect I've had for the President over this issue. I don't hate him. I think he's a good man, but his obvious inaction in securing our borders, and his constant deference towards Vicente Fox and the illegals are infuriating to those of us who'd like to retain American sovereignty and the rule of law.

He has been a disaster on immigration, in my opinion, and that could destroy us.

415 posted on 05/12/2006 1:03:11 PM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: Mo1
It's easier to blame [President] Bush

I refer you to Post #104. Now, who is to blame for the documented lack of enforcement during the Bush administration? Where, exactly, does the buck stop in the executive branch? The laws are there. Who is at fault for them not being enforced?

416 posted on 05/12/2006 1:03:32 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: kellynla
well you are wrong, because border security and immigration are under FEDERAL JURISDICTION.

So all those STATES giving drivers licenses and other benefits to illegals is just an illusion?

417 posted on 05/12/2006 1:03:36 PM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: areafiftyone
Under the Civil War-era Posse Comitatus Act, federal troops are prohibited from performing law enforcement actions, such as making arrests, seizing property or searching people.

is the stupidest argument against guarding the border. The troops are not needed for law enforcement, searches or making arrests. They are for guarding the border.

They are for keeping people from crossing the line into the U.S. - before they get in and Posse Comitatus starts to apply.

Mexico Territory
----Border----
^^^US Troops^^^^^

418 posted on 05/12/2006 1:03:52 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Texasforever
You really need that wall to beat your head against don't you?

Me and a lot of other voters. People aren't dumb - they know what methods are effective and which ones aren't. Patrols are only as good as the desire of those in charge - a wall works 24 hours a day.

419 posted on 05/12/2006 1:04:27 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta
Me and a lot of other voters. People aren't dumb - they know what methods are effective and which ones aren't. Patrols are only as good as the desire of those in charge - a wall works 24 hours a day.

You do know that a wall to keep people out can also be used to keep people in don't you?

420 posted on 05/12/2006 1:05:40 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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