Posted on 05/11/2006 11:04:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
Senate leaders reached an agreement yesterday on immigration reform legislation that would strengthen border security but also would allow millions of illegal aliens who have been in the U.S. for two years or longer to apply for citizenship. Derided by conservatives as "amnesty," the proposal could be amended but senators on both sides of the aisle say they doubt it will be dramatically altered. "Senate Republicans are united in their commitment to an open and full debate on multiple amendments," said a statement from seven Republicans who represent the full spectrum of positions on immigration reform. "We are willing to put differences aside so we can get on with the important work to be done securing our borders and grappling with the 12 million illegal immigrants currently living in our country," said the group that included Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Sen. John Cornyn of Texas. "We are also in agreement that efforts to curtail the debate prematurely will only derail this process. We call on Senate Democrats to allow an open debate and votes on this complex and challenging issue," the statement read. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, with whom Mr. Frist has been negotiating for weeks, said he "welcomed" the return of the thorny bill to the floor.
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I never said the word "apprehended" is the equivalent to the word "deported". I used the word EXPEL. Now, who was talking about reading comprehension?
It would take more than arresting a few managers - on May 1st, here in L.A. boycott, the economy lost an estimated $200 million - that could add up really quick you know?
Uh, "deported" and "expelled" mean the same thing--as in "sent outside the USA"
Did you ever click on the link I provided to government statistics in this regard - they use the word "expel" for ALL departures - forced like deportation, or voluntary. What do you care how they leave - at least they are gone, right?
Uh, "deported" and "expelled" mean the same thing--as in "sent outside the USA"
And what link would that be. Your first link said they were "sent home", but your second one lists that the vast majority of those were "voluntary departures", which, as I understand it, means that the INS makes them sign a statement saying that they'll leave, and then TURNS THEM LOOSE, only taking their word that they have actually left. Until someone turns up PROOF that they are REALLY GONE, then I put that "six million" down as a fantasy.
Oh, and by the way, if that "6 million" turns out the be real, it demolishes your argment that we can't deport them successfully. If we can deport 6 million, we can certainl deport 12 million (or even 18 million).
Y'know, your arguments begin to pass the point of insanity. You're comparing apples and kumquats. And yes, all it would take is to put a few top-level managers in jail and with stiff fines for those hiring the illegals to stop the practice.
YOur table shows a little over 3 million removals SINCE 1891.
Certainly NOT 6 million since GWB has been in office.
But I will formally thank for your honesty in providing it.
Quite a few? lol thats an understatement. Id guess more than 5 million of them.
What disingenuousness.
We've been over this many times before. In case you haven't figured it out, Reagan was not G*d, and yes, even Reagan made made mistakes during his tenure in office. The '86 Amnesty ultimately wound up increasing the rolls of democratic voters. And that has paid big dividends for the Democrats at the local state and federal level. Deal with it.
There is no way the Simpson/Mazzoli amendment would have been allowed to the '86 Immigration Act if they actually knew what they know now.
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