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[Man50D]

FairTax Rally and a special invitation to you

You are invited as special guests and participants to the Neal Boortz FairTax Rally to be held May 24th at the Gwinnett Convention Center outside Atlanta. Not only will this rally feature Congressman John Linder, WSB talk show host Neal Boortz, and FOX News star and conservative commentator Sean Hannity, but also FairTax.org leaders will be on hand, as well as FairTax activist and leader Herman Cain.

The goal of this rally, which will be broadcast nationally on Sean Hannity's FOX program, “Hannity & Colmes,” is to "kick up" the heat on national leaders to get the FairTax legislation moving. Join us for the this free rally and enjoy history in the making with fellow FairTaxers.

Date: Wednesday, May 24, 2006
Start time: 7:30 p.m.

Who: Neal Boortz
What: Free FairTax Rally
Where: Gwinnett Convention Center 6400 Sugarloaf Parkway Duluth, Georgia 30097

(800) 224-6422

Directions to Gwinnett Center: http://www.gwinnettcenter.com/pages/header/h_maps.html

Why: Neal Boortz is sick and tired of the IRS! He wants the IRS abolished and replaced with the FairTax!
Joining Neal Boortz at the rally:

Sean Hannity
Georgia Congressman John Linder
Herman Cain
FairTax.org leaders Consumer advocate Clark Howard Special musical guests Banks & Shane


There is no charge for this event and tickets are not required.
Please R.S.V.P. for your chance at front row seats to http://bigwinner.cxri.net/Contest.asp?r=10004&s=10732.
Visit Americans For Fair Taxation, www.FairTax.org, to find out more about the FairTax.

[Mojave]

So now, out of the other side of your mouth, you're saying there are no embedded taxes in everything they buy.

Good catch!

[lewislynn]

Mojave

Receipt of the "fair" tax entitlement payments don't require the purchase of those things. Or anything at all.

Socialism thinly disguised.

156 posted on 05/13/2006 7:00:22 PM PDT by Mojave

Typical pigdog obfuscation. In this case to #156:

You think that those in the illegal economy buy nothing that would be taxable under HR25???

Not so. Read the bill.

Nothing in 156 about "illegals" and there certainly isn't anything in "the bill" about having to make any purchases to receive the new Fairtax entitlement.

A classic example why pigdog never references his replies to anything and why they look like and are rambling gobbledegook.

[RobFromGa]

Of course you never are honest enough to say that you basically favor the existing tax system. You're no doubt sorry you let that slip here.

Which is it? Did I "never" say what I think? Or did I say it?

And I'm not sorry that I let it "slip" because it didn't "slip"? I answered the question and said that I favor continued reduction of marginal tax rates, elimination of corporate taxes, and death taxes. Keeping the lower capital gains rates, and most of all I want to fix the entitlement programs and take them private at least partially in the future.

I think the spending side of the equation is where the danger to our country lies-- not in figuring out a radical new way to take out the same amount of money.

The FairTax is awful on the spending, first you have the prebate monstrosity to collect all the money for that we don't have now. Plus the government will have to collect about 20% more to pay for the FairTax on all it's salaries and purchases to remain purchasing-power neutral. even SocSec and Medicare will be automatically ratchet up roughly 20% when average proces rise by this amount.

The FairTax is simply a terrible idea.

[lewislynn]

Here's more pigdog rambling idiocy:

You're merely exposing your own ignorance once again, Looey.

The taxes embedded (hidden) in the prices of things by the cascading mechanism I've continually illustrated are not part of the revenue neutral concept at all, but are part of the inflated prices paid by consumers IN ADDITION TO THE "NORMAL" INCOME TAXES THEY PAY.

That's why many call them hidden taxes, Looey. They cannot be easily seen and are not normally recognized as tax revenue - since they are not part of the normal tax revenue from the consumer. The revenue neutral terminology comes from revenue raised by the normal income taxes (not the hidden taxes which just boost prices). Inflation (generally purposely implemented and boosted by the Fed) is also a hidden tax as well - but I suppose you don't believe that either.

The embedded tax costs discussed WILL be eliminated by removing the income tax and prices will drop because of that. You're welcome to keep on paying the same old prices though if it makes you happy.

513 posted on 03/02/2006 2:26:28 PM PST by pigdog

This is what happens when you crossbreed animals, specifically pigs with dogs. But this is the first I've heard that the Fairtax would eliminate inflation and the hidden taxes are never counted as revenue only income or vaporize, I guess....

And I'd be happy to pay the old prices sans the 30% first year teaser rate.

[groanup]

Cult obsessions are no substitute for historical facts.

And when you post some we'll consider them. Until then, consider yourself a wienie. Wienies don't have any facts, they just have wienies. Please post your facts and indulge us. We are all ears.

If, as usual, you need some help, try the income tax code, the fair tax website, the Federalist Papers, the Bible, the scores of fair tax threads. Out of all of those you should be able to justify your position. Or am I just a liar.

Of course, since your argument is going to be that we are all liars, I will help you: THERE IS ALWAYS ONE THING THAT YOU AND THE REST OF THE SQL'S CAN DO..., EITHER TELL US THAT YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE CURRENT TAX CODE OR GIVE US ALTERNATIVE.

Of course the fair taxers have an alternative. You and your ants and squirrels do not.

Well, what is it? Do we keep and worship the tax code or change it?

[Mojave]

And when you post some we'll consider them.

We? You have a tapeworm?

There has never been a general federal sales tax. State sales taxes didn't appear under the 20th century. Many states have both sales AND income taxes.

You'll flee these facts, just as your fellow cultists did.

[Mojave]

the 30% first year teaser rate.

Bait and switch.

[lewislynn]

the 30% first year teaser rate.

Bait and switch.

`(b) Rate-

`(1) FOR 2007- In the calendar year 2007, the rate of tax is 23 percent of the gross payments for the taxable property or service.

`(2) FOR YEARS AFTER 2007- For years after the calendar year 2007, the rate of tax is the combined Federal tax rate percentage (as defined in paragraph (3)) of the gross payments for the taxable property or service.

`(3) COMBINED FEDERAL TAX RATE PERCENTAGE- The combined Federal tax rate percentage is the sum of--

`(A) the general revenue rate (as defined in paragraph (4), and

`(B) the old-age, survivors and disability insurance rate, and

`(C) the hospital insurance rate.

The old-age, survivors and disability insurance (sales tax) rate, and the hospital insurance (sales tax) rate would be determined by Social Security bureaucrats...every year AFTER the first year of enactment.

[pigdog]

Sorry - not a tautology at all since you seemingly do not know that those folks pay tax on taxable items and you try to pretend otherwise.

It's merely a clarification for a mojoron to ensure he grasps the point (& he apparently still doesn't)!

Why does it concern you about the number of taxable items they buy??? The prebate is based on family size not quantities of things purchased but perhaps ou didn't know that haven't never read the bill.

Additionally, it's not an entitlement but a refund of tax paid much like your April 15 tax refund. You guys love to throw in misused words and phrases as a form of mud-slinging to befuddle the unwary. They'll quickly find you out by reading the bill, the book, or the FairTax website.

[pigdog]

You're the embarrassment since we've never had both together in the history of the country it's not about to start now.

You've proved the point you're trying (weakly) to dispute.

[pigdog]

Glad to have enlightened you about CA ... and you probably live there judging from your name and home page.

These left coast geeks are really amazing. Their educational system seems to lack the ability to let them know they live in a state, not a country. Such amazing arrogance/stupidity (take your pick).

[pigdog]

No, Looey, what was said is that they pay basically no taxes - meaning of course income taxes. The tiny amount they pay in embedded taxes amounts to almost nothing compared to what they will pay under the FairTax.

In fact, though, I said nothing about embedded taxes in the post in question - but of course you knew that.

[pigdog]

Certainly yu should know all about obfuscation, Looey.

Unfortunately, you're misinformed about #156. Try again.

[pigdog]

Glad you favor the FairTax, Robbie ... and glad you're so "honest", but I've missed this "love the I. T." admission on the other threads I've seen you on. An accidental omission I'm sure.

[xcamel]

You're the one who keeps running his mouth about how I must be a communist, or work for the IRS, or be a tax preparer (none of which is true).

However, I do provide over 400 million in economic benefit to my community with 600 employees, while you most likely sit in your trailer park somewhere watching Oprah and pounding out lies on a keyboard.

[Mojave]

you seemingly do not know that those folks pay tax on taxable items

Not all items are taxable. The entitlement payments are made regardless of how little, if anything at all, the person on the "fair" tax dole spends on taxable items.

Dishonesty is the air your cult breathes.

[Mojave]

You're the embarrassment since we've never had both together in the history of the country

Non sequitur. Typical "fair" taxer post.

[Mojave]

Do you think the bait and switch 23% 30% rate would even survive through the first year?

[groanup]

There has never been a general federal sales tax. State sales taxes didn't appear under the 20th century.

Before 1776 there had never been a Declaration of Independence. Before 1789 there had never been a Consitution. Before 1970 there had never been a DOS for computers. SO?

[Mojave]

Before 1776 there had never been a Declaration of Independence.

Thanks for the non sequitur.