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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: IrishMike

This may be just the tip of the iceberg. What an outrage! I can no longer support GWB in any fashion. What the hell is happening in our country?


341 posted on 05/09/2006 9:02:49 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: Tammy8
" This is very dangerous for the Minutemen, smugglers are not nice people, and the Minutemen are making it tougher on them. People interfering with smuggling have been known to come up missing, or dead."

They have and are truly setting them up for an amBUSH.

342 posted on 05/09/2006 9:02:54 AM PDT by Kakaze (I'm now a single issue voter.....exterminate Al Quaida)
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To: IrishMike
I read it and I dont wanna believe it. This is treason on the part of our federal government from the TOP all the way down!
343 posted on 05/09/2006 9:03:25 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Tracy V.; All
"Sorry, Dude. I don't buy into fear."

LOL, you will, ethic cleaning is all the rage these days. You think it can't happen here? LOL, it is already happening here, look at the murders stats in the parts of the southwest already under Azlan control (LA, for example).

344 posted on 05/09/2006 9:03:42 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: avg_freeper
Last time I looked, it still said "We the People" on the Constitution. It's the elected officials WE put in charge that are committing treason against US.

Didn't actually think it needed more clarification.

345 posted on 05/09/2006 9:03:58 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

"If the Bush admin believes that by trashing the Minutemen-patriots and pandering to the illegal alien crowd they're more likely to retain congressional control they're even dumber than they look"

You NAILED it!!


346 posted on 05/09/2006 9:04:18 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: cva66snipe

"yes I know other POTUS have used them also"

My father was in the TN National Guard and deployed to Mexico under "Black Jack" Pershing to chase Poncho Villa around before going to France in WWI. But I get your point.


347 posted on 05/09/2006 9:04:37 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
"It's a long-standing requirement of international law."

You don't get it do you? Screw international law! We're talking about the security of our country and you quote international law? You open border types are getting bolder by the day.

348 posted on 05/09/2006 9:04:46 AM PDT by blaquebyrd (Allegiance to country before party)
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To: cva66snipe
I smell State Department orders given to Border Patrol via Fox Buddy Bush.

Correct on the State Department origin, not correct on the reason.

It's a longstanding requirement of international law. Basically, the country of origin (ANY country of origin) has a right to the following if their citizens are arrested in a foreign country:

1. Access to the detainee by a consular officer.

2. A detailed report of the arrest (i.e., location, date, time, reason for arrest, name of arresting individual(s), etc.)

3. Access to the arresting individual(s) for an interview.

349 posted on 05/09/2006 9:05:23 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Dead Corpse

Do you BELIEVE this crap DC?? It is like the dam Twilight Zone!


350 posted on 05/09/2006 9:05:24 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: JeffAtlanta

I absolutely agree with you. Bush has been a big disappointment. He's abandoned the conservative agenda and cannot rally members of his own party. The Republican Party controls both Houses of Congress and the Presidency for the first time in how many years. What an opportunity missed!!! I am convinced that there is absolutely no effective leadership in Washington, Democrat or Republican.


351 posted on 05/09/2006 9:05:24 AM PDT by Daytyn71 (Today's Illegals are Tomorrow's Democrats!!!)
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To: IrishMike

My disappointment in Bush on this issue is unquantifiable.


352 posted on 05/09/2006 9:05:42 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: ARCADIA

" OK Bushbots: could someone please explain how this can be anything but outright treason. "

I won't call it treason. But, don't ask me to explain it or justify it .
The WH not only refuses to wake up and smell the citizen's anger, but, they seem to delight in poking a stick in everyone's eye on the border issue.
Karl Rove gave a speech last week where he said that passing the guest worker program was one of their highest priorities.
On this issue, the WH is completely out of step with most Americans (of all political leanings ) and that doesn't seem to faze them. In fact, it seems to energize them.
It's unbelievable .


353 posted on 05/09/2006 9:06:31 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: IrishMike

absolutely disgusting. The Bush administration is acting on bad faith. You cannot believe anything they say anymore. I think I am seeing the end of the Republican party.


354 posted on 05/09/2006 9:07:12 AM PDT by 1955Ford
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To: IrishMike

Our government is failing to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

It's time for Bush to go. If the Republicans don't have the balls to stop this BS then it's time to replace them, too.


355 posted on 05/09/2006 9:07:26 AM PDT by PeterFinn (Anita Bryant was right!)
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To: VOATNOW1

Yes, that is what I mean.


356 posted on 05/09/2006 9:08:18 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: IrishMike

TRAITORS!!! How about telling the F'n Mexican Gov. to STOP the F'N INVASION!!


357 posted on 05/09/2006 9:08:30 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Pay your TAXES-millions of illegal aliens are depending on you!)
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To: no one in particular

It's that time.

Let's see what Rush says.

If anything...


358 posted on 05/09/2006 9:09:10 AM PDT by null and void (Islam wasn't hijacked on 9/11. It was exposed.)
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To: jpsb

Well, sounds like should go ahead and get yourself a "safe room", might want to rubberize it while your at it.


359 posted on 05/09/2006 9:09:18 AM PDT by Tracy V. (Hell is the impossibility of reason)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Dude, judicial appointments is rearranging deck chairs if laws are selectively enforced.


360 posted on 05/09/2006 9:09:33 AM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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