Moussaoui Asks to Withdraw Guilty Plea

LATimes ^ | 5/8/06 | AP

[Blood of Tyrants]

Most likely. If I were the judge, I would say, "So, Mr. Moussaoui, are you telling me that you perjured yourself in this courtroom? In that case the sentence for perjery is 5 years in prison plus a fine. See you in five years. Next case!"

[ark_girl]

Our law doesn't allow us (no matter who tried him) to take care of him the way family members of victims would probably like to see since we don't do torture (and rightfully so).

If we executed him, we'd be giving him what he wanted. He'd get to be paraded on the news every night for the next few years. He'd get to be a poster child for his cause. Libs would decry how inhuman it is that we were executing him. Then, we'd give him a nice big meal and then execute him in the most quick, pain free method possible.

With the punishment he received, he gets no soap box. Nothing newsworthy will really happen related to him, so over the decades he will fall into the background. He'll basically die 40 to 60 years from now with no hoorah, having contributed nothing to speak of to his cause.

This is a young, healthy, probably relatively intelligent guy and he's going to spend the rest of his days (and there are a lot of them) locked in a room by himself with nothing but some boring educational videos, and that's only if he behaves well by the standards of the "great Satan". Otherwise, he gets to sit in his cell 23 hours a day with absolutely nothing. He'll wear what US Government tells him to wear. He'll eat what the government tells him to eat. He'll sleep where the United States government tells him to sleep.

In short, this is probably the closest thing any developed country has to torture. And in the end, he doesn't get to die for a cause. He'll just die of natural causes. He'll probably have wonderful medical care, which will just effectively elongate his sentence. Personally, I think execution would have been too kind for this man...especially since he was trying to off himself in the first place. I think he's getting the worst punishment this country has to offer.

[Tulsa Ramjet]

"I hope somebody puts a camera on him, like Ozzy or Anna Nicole Smith"

Yeah, a reality show at Supermax. Pilot show opens with tight shot on institutional blue painted wall. Camera pulls back to wider shot and we see Moussaoui kneeling on the floor in starting his prayers. He gets a disgruntled look on his face, and swivels around and moves his prayer mat to face another wall. Now he looks really confused. He looks back at the wall where his rack is, and then back at the wall where he originally started. He gives up and picks up an Archie comic book and lays down on his bunk. He briefly laughs out loud at the storyline. Roll credits.

[oceanview]

he will be the "cause celebrite" for a whole host of cases brought by human rights groups on the left. in fact, in your last paragraph - you are essentially writing an amicus brief for those cases - you say "its the closest thing to torture we have" - and when some liberal federal judge agrees with you, that's its cruel and unusual punishment, supermax will be closed.

yes, he would have been around for a few years on death row - but then he would have been gone.

[Almondjoy]

Nope.. probably a game he had planned from the start.

[ark_girl]

In which case he'd be moved to general population where he gets to be somebody's girlfriend until he inevitably gets killed by a fellow inmate. Still less than a blaze of glory.

They're not gonna move him to Martha Stewart's house for house arrest. He's going to be in a living hell no matter what.

Plus, depending on your faith, he's going to get his eternal reward and that'll be infinitely worse than anything we can dish out.

[CMOTB]

I live about 11 miles from his new home. Its a very friendly looking building from the outside, but driving by you always wonder what its really like inside, or in the underground portion of the "hell hole", but then its still bigger than the spider hole that the ol' Iraq leader was found hiding in. Considering that, he has a nice clean room. A nice metal toilet, and walls. He'll have some time to think of all kinds of excuses.. I wonder if he was just kidding about wanting the death penalty as well. If hell freezes over, he just may get another trial for his comments. I think the guards in Florence need to just ignore what ever it is he has to say.

[Sloth]

wants to withdraw his guilty pleawants to withdraw his guilty plea

Did he also say, "well, you don't have to get snippy about it"?

[killjoy]

This is one of the funniest things I have read in a long time. So sad, too bad.

[timydnuc]

Somebody is paying those lawyers, and I want to know who. I know lawyers, they don't do work like this pro bona.

I want him to get his right of appeal, and I want the Supreme Court to refuse to hear the case, that's it. Let him scream, yell, and bite at the air for the rest of his sorry life in a cell that smells like his own excrement.

You have 40, maybe 50 years to sit there and rot. You deserve it, you a$$hole. We tried you by our law, a fair and just law, not like yours. You are guilty, and you know it. You are there, in that hell hole for the rest of your worthless life. Escape and you will die at the hands of me, or the other 270 Million brothers and sisters of mine. Just lay there and die, your life is nothing now, just a news clipping from 2006. When you take your last stinking breath it won't even be news, just a one line obit on page 61B.

[antiunion person]

Actually from his exercise yard, the walls are too tall to see anything but the blue sky from it. No mountains, no other prisoners, no one to brag his story to. I hope the SOB lives to be 100 years old. If he was executed by the prison system, one, it would take about 20 years to stick a needle into his arm and two, he would have become a martyr for islam. Better going crazy all alone in a tiny cell then helping the terrorists.

[danamco]

Can we fry 'im for perjury?




Was he not under oath???

[XR7]

There ain't gonna be no 72 virgins.

Moussauoi's probably contemplating his "Deliverance" cell mates...

"Squeal like a pig, boy!"

[Lawgvr1955]

Thomas Silverstein, bank robber and murderer; killed guard Merle Clutts in another facility.

Back in the early 80's I went to the USP Marion Illinois to speak with Silverstein as a potential witness in a trial where I was appointed to represent another inmate. I was locked up in a cell (within another cell) about 3' x 6' with Silverstein. I had no idea who (or what) he was at the time. Thinking back, I would have been safer going into a lion's den.

It was shortly after that that he killed the guard and the Marion Prison went on its lock down that still continues.

[Cincinna]

No do-overs.

[The Red Zone]

The Phelpses would be following him around offering to kiss his feet wherever he went.

[The Red Zone]

When you take your last stinking breath it won't even be news, just a one line obit on page 61B.

Don't count on that. The MSM of that time will print a breathless recap of the whole sordid story.

[contemplator]

Would it be possible to graft his head onto a pig's body?

What sick thing to say! That would be the ultimate indignity and simply a cruel and unjust thing to do!! What did that poor little pig ever do to you?