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Bush Personnel Announcement at 1:45 EDT (Porter Goss Resigns from CIA)
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Posted on 05/05/2006 10:08:03 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

Press conference at 1:45


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; ciadirector; goss; gossresigns; libby; mccarthy; media; negroponte; nonstory; portergoss; resignation; speculativemonkeys; spies; wilson
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To: EternalHope

why wouldn't it? the details of this departure strike me as that of someone who is very p*ssed off.


981 posted on 05/05/2006 7:43:26 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: null and void

I love Red Dwarf. Thanks for the laugh on a weird and bewildering day.


982 posted on 05/05/2006 7:44:35 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: Howlin

GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


983 posted on 05/05/2006 7:46:07 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Peach

LOL...some alibi; NOT!


984 posted on 05/05/2006 7:48:31 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: EternalHope
It’s speculation, but there is at least one very clear possibility: A MAJOR policy dispute about something very big and very recent.

Now this makes some sense....

985 posted on 05/05/2006 8:26:27 PM PDT by Doofer
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To: roses of sharon

regardless of reality here - listening to the network radio news feeds - they are running with the "hookers" story.


986 posted on 05/05/2006 8:29:55 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Enchante; Fedora; Howlin; ravingnutter; piasa; Peach; Grampa Dave; pinz-n-needlez; canadianally; ...
MSM rumor mill is screaming that the expected WH nominee for the new CIA Director is General Michael Hayden!! I think he could be very good, from what I've read about him, certainly a top intel expert though I'm not sure whether he'll have any stomach for or interest in cleaning up the rogues of the CIA.... but he'll run a tight, expert ship going forward, from what I can tell. I was calling this outcome 8 hours ago (though I certainly had no info, just a hunch), so the MSM should just ask ME for their rumors and predictions in future news cycles.......here's what I said 8+ hours ago:

"Until I see any real information, I'm going with "Goss was passed over for DNI and now Negroponte is ready to put his own stamp on the CIA with new Director Hayden....." As long as Hayden (or whoever the next CIA Director may be) is ready to seriously improve the place and get rid of the lib traitors I'm prepared to be happy about this......"

Fox and AP are reporting strong rumors that the new CIA Director will be General Michael Hayden!! Let history note that I predicted this (loosely speaking) at 1:17:17 PM MDT!!!! :^) Fox and AP are reporting that an unnamed "senior administration official" says the new CIA Director may be announced as early as Monday:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060506/ap_on_go_pr_wh/white_house_shake_up
987 posted on 05/05/2006 8:36:04 PM PDT by Enchante (Mary McCarthy & Richard Clarke: Al Qaeda and Iraq helped to produce VX in Sudan!!!)
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To: oceanview
Strange, listening to the radio coming home tonite is where I heard Russert talk about it being planned and resumes being looked at, and that Time mag is reporting it's Hayden.

Oh well, its sweeps, sex sells!
988 posted on 05/05/2006 8:36:47 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Enchante
I remember Hayden really took it to the press when explaining the "wiretapping", he was very articulate and tough.
989 posted on 05/05/2006 8:38:46 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon

if it is Hayden - he confirmation hearings are going to be a constant barrage about "domestic spying" at the NSA.

also, Hayden will have to resign from the military I think, to take this slot.


990 posted on 05/05/2006 8:39:16 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Wolfstar

It's looking like this was not quite so sudden, and not necessarily even remotely, scandal-related. If the latest MSM rumor mill on both AP and Fox turns out to be correct, then General Michael Hayden (Negroponte's deputy) is already slated to be the next CIA Director and it may be announced as soon as MONDAY:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060506/ap_on_go_pr_wh/white_house_shake_up


Of course, even if it is Hayden and even it they are already prepared to announce it on Monday, that doesn't prove it wasn't a sudden change or scandal-related. But I'm sticking with my hunch that it's mainly a case of Negroponte taking the next step in the reorganization of the intel community - Hayden has been his point man in so many ways on this re-org, as I have posted about above, and it could make a great deal of sense to send him now into the Augean Stables of the CIA and try to turn that place into a far more professional and competent organization than it has been with all the screw-ups and leaks in recent years.

It may simply be that Goss completed his transitional mission and it was the appropriate time to put at the head of the CIA someone who could well run the place for the next 5-10 years (which Goss had no interest in doing, from what I've heard).


991 posted on 05/05/2006 8:43:48 PM PDT by Enchante (Mary McCarthy & Richard Clarke: Al Qaeda and Iraq helped to produce VX in Sudan!!!)
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To: oceanview
Yes, then get your popcorn, as they say!

Obviously the President is fine with a "barrage", (if its Hayden).

I do recall Hayden explaining the "domestic spying", and taking questions, alot of questions, with the Press Club? At a news conference with another man?, and on the hill?

I'll have to look it up, it was all jumbled back then.
992 posted on 05/05/2006 8:46:20 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: oceanview; Rose of Sharon
"if it is Hayden - he confirmation hearings are going to be a constant barrage about "domestic spying" at the NSA"

For sure - but as Rose of Sharon notes above, Hayden proved a very articulate and effective defender of the NSA program recently. Probably nothing can convince all the psychotics, but he should put on a strong show for the public and for those in Congress whose minds aren't totally made up.
993 posted on 05/05/2006 8:46:57 PM PDT by Enchante (Mary McCarthy & Richard Clarke: Al Qaeda and Iraq helped to produce VX in Sudan!!!)
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To: Enchante

You deserve all "props"...and I applaud you...I have heard/read so many theories about why this happened.

What is your theory of why, and why today??


994 posted on 05/05/2006 8:49:25 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: VictoryGal

You wanna be on the Red Dwarf ping list?


995 posted on 05/05/2006 8:55:10 PM PDT by null and void (Hillary!™ would have been a big astronaut. Say that slowly)
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To: Enchante

I agree that Hayden is a good choice.


996 posted on 05/05/2006 8:55:54 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Txsleuth

Thanks, I'm only spinning a story out my head that makes sense to me, I don't have any real info, but it just seems to me that what Hayden described in a lengthy Q&A which I linked to this afternoon was a process of reorg and streamlining of the intel community (the 14 agencies or so) which would have to require further major steps at the CIA to dramatically reform how it's all been done in the past. Hayden has been Negroponte's point man and #2 on this process. Goss did as much as he could in 18+ months and now it was time for Negroponte and Hayden to take the reins more tightly and really put their vision in place. Of course there might (or might not) have been any particular precipitating events behind the scenes, but this strikes me as a very likely outcome even if Goss and Negronponte got along perfectly and shared 100% the same vision and operating sense. I'm not saying they do, just that Goss was not interested in being around for the next 5-10 years (from what I've heard and read) and it really was time to put in place a new Director of the CIA who Negroponte and President Bush felt 100% sure could take their vision forward for the next 5-10 years.


997 posted on 05/05/2006 8:56:41 PM PDT by Enchante (Mary McCarthy & Richard Clarke: Al Qaeda and Iraq helped to produce VX in Sudan!!!)
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To: Mo1
Wasn't Negroponte the one that didn't think releasing the Iraq document was important and that Bush over rid that and had them released??

Yes.

998 posted on 05/05/2006 8:59:40 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Enchante
Of course, even if it is Hayden and even it they are already prepared to announce it on Monday, that doesn't prove it wasn't a sudden change or scandal-related.

What proves it is not scandal-related is the fact that both President Bush and John Negroponte were with Porter Goss in the Oval Office to announce the latter's resignation. (The individual who started the "it's due to scandal" thing on this thread was being deliberately malicious in my opinion.)

A photo from today.


999 posted on 05/05/2006 9:01:54 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wolfstar

You're quite right - why would President Bush be doing a smiling photo op with a top official resigning if there was about to be a cloud of scandal? Any WH would keep arms' length if that were the case.

CNN now asserting quite firmly that unnamed "senior administration officials" (plural) are confirming that the nomination of General Michael Hayden will be announced on Monday!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/05/goss.resignation/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush has settled on Air Force Gen. Michael Hayden as his choice for CIA director, and an announcement is planned for Monday, senior administration officials told CNN late Friday.

Hayden, 61, is the principal deputy to National Intelligence Director John Negroponte.

If confirmed by the Senate, Hayden would replace Porter Goss, who abruptly resigned the CIA post earlier Friday after losing what intelligence sources described as a power struggle with Negroponte.

Hayden was director of the National Security Agency in 2001 when Bush authorized a controversial program allowing the agency to monitor the communications of people inside the United States who were in contact with suspected terrorists overseas without first obtaining a warrant.

Critics charge the surveillance program is a violation of law and an assault on civil liberties. Hayden has defended the program, insisting that it is a necessary tool to thwart terrorists and that the process of obtaining warrants is too slow and cumbersome to deal with "a lethal enemy."


1,000 posted on 05/05/2006 9:06:31 PM PDT by Enchante (Mary McCarthy & Richard Clarke: Al Qaeda and Iraq helped to produce VX in Sudan!!!)
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