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Kent State, The True Story
American Opinion ^ | June, 1974 | Alan Stang

Posted on 05/04/2006 6:42:00 PM PDT by motorcity70

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To: FugeFan
Nope, I'm not reading any thing else on the issue. Having poured through every thing I could find on the issue at the time, I made up my mind about it long ago.

I don't really care whether there was a sniper, or bricks or whatever on the day it happened. Once the Guard was called up and had been pelted repeatedly, I wouldn't have blamed them if they had a hair trigger for just looking at them cross eyed.

This sort of behavior on campus or on the street in our cities should not be allowed period. The blame lies in not shutting this crap down the first minute it started.

Besides that, the Guard should not be called out to handle violent situations, unless the authorities want someone killed. They are soldiers, and their business is killing, and we want them to be good at it, so that our guys come home alive and some other SOB dies for their country.

I feel the same way about Vietnam and The war in the Iraq. Don't send our men over there and tie their hands. Let loose the hounds of war, and let them win or keep them home and forget about war.

Sheer stupidity both on the part of the students and the people in charge caused those deaths. Not the Guards fault. They shouldn't have been there in the first place, if they weren't supposed to kill anyone.

Now that's JMHO. You are equally entitled to yours.

End of story. End of discussion.

101 posted on 06/03/2015 7:24:24 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: 21twelve
Those folks just along for the ride, would have smart to take a ride home - away from the shenanigans.
102 posted on 06/03/2015 7:26:48 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

have = have been


103 posted on 06/03/2015 7:27:45 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: ndt

I was in my 20’s when that happened. I thought every thug should have been shot and I still do. That should be done to every protester especially those who burn, rob, etc. The ones today know nothing will be done to them so that makes them act worse. I could add more but this is probably enough for you to get my ideas. : )


104 posted on 06/03/2015 7:43:12 PM PDT by MamaB (You forgot)
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To: motorcity70; HighWheeler

Wikipedia is probably farther left than those we know in the lamestream media. Of course they write history the way they want you to read it.


105 posted on 06/03/2015 8:12:00 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: greeneyes

“Sheer stupidity both on the part of the students and the people in charge caused those deaths. Not the Guards fault. They [the Guard] shouldn’t have been there in the first place, if they weren’t supposed to kill anyone.”

Well, we are getting away from Stang’s article. But to reply:

National Guardsmen are sent out to all sorts of emergency situations. They are trained to maintain discipline and are only supposed to kill as a last resort in self defense.

They were sent to the town of Kent and Kent State University to keep order. It was absolutely not necessary to kill on the day of May 4, 1970. The students had already dispersed and those who were shot were typically hundreds of feet away. The Guard should have at least been convicted of manslaughter.

At least a civil suit was successful, when $675,000 was awarded to the surviving victims and the victims families in January 1979.

Now it’s end of discussion.


106 posted on 07/04/2015 2:16:22 PM PDT by FugeFan (This is Not the "True Story" of Kent State. It's the False Story)
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To: FugeFan

You are wrong. I am right. End of story.LOL


107 posted on 07/04/2015 11:19:30 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: motorcity70
It's a cliche, and a lie, that the National Guardsmen acted wrongly at Kent State.

Um, no it's not. Guardsmen fired downrange without regard to innocent people who were in the line of fire.

That was grossly negligent, and led to several deaths.

When guardsmens' bullets killed innocent civilians, people who weren't being targeted, then that, clearly and unambiguously, was acting "wrongly".

108 posted on 07/04/2015 11:50:07 PM PDT by sargon
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To: HighWheeler

They were there. They also spent time trying to recruit high school students in the area. My father was a H.S. teacher and kept tabs on them before most Americans knew they existed.

Some of my friends had older siblings at KSU that were active in SDS. To this day some of them STILL travel to KSU on the anniversary to commemorate that day. Old commie hippies reliving their glory days.


109 posted on 07/05/2015 12:08:01 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: nopardons
How old were you, when this took place?

Sniper? My cousin was walking to class. I was a young teenager (14).

Read up on Sandy Scheuer.

She was walking between classes.

What if that was your babysitter when young and a relative?
110 posted on 07/05/2015 12:24:49 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: PA Engineer

Absolutely.

Even then-Attorney General John Mitchell, hardly a liberal, said after the federal investigation that the shooting was “unneccessary, unwarranted and inexcusable.”


111 posted on 07/10/2015 5:54:33 PM PDT by FugeFan (This is Not the "True Story" of Kent State. It's the False Story)
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To: FugeFan

SO, here we are, another May dawns and the cavalcade of remembering Kent State is again in the news. Never forget it was the SDS that killed these young students and not the Guardsmen who did their duty.


112 posted on 05/04/2020 8:44:20 AM PDT by motorcity70
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
This topic was posted 5/4/2006, thanks motorcity70.

113 posted on 11/03/2021 8:38:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: motorcity70

bump


114 posted on 11/03/2021 9:44:51 AM PDT by sneakers (It's not the democraTIC party! It's the demoCRAT party! )
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