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Mark Steyn: The Something They Will Believe In [blue state America, Britain, and Europe]
National Review (via Steynonline) ^
| April 17th 2006 issue
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 05/02/2006 5:18:02 PM PDT by NZerFromHK
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Boy, what a provocative article from the Euroweenies' perspective! But it is a necessary one.
To: okie01; Fair Go; NYer; sionnsar; Pokey78; Tolik; goldstategop; Fred Nerks
Mark Steyn on Christians and Islam in Europe!
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posted on
05/02/2006 5:19:31 PM PDT
by
NZerFromHK
(Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
To: NZerFromHK
So, white Europeans are tossing in the towel against the Muslim influx by converting to Islam. I guess the "surrender monkey" term no longer applies only to the French.
To: NZerFromHK
"Rowan Williams"
Isn't that Mr. Bean?
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posted on
05/02/2006 5:29:19 PM PDT
by
Sabatier
To: NZerFromHK
But who will save Protestantism in Europe? The ones moving in from Africa. What Europe once exported it must now import.
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posted on
05/02/2006 5:31:26 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(I am only an evil INTERN. I am still learning.)
To: NZerFromHK
"Both felt there was not just a physical but a psychological security in being dressed Muslim. Theyre not reverts, but, at least for the purposes of padding the public space, theyre passing for Muslim in public."
Wow. Looks like cultural surrender is in full swing.
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posted on
05/02/2006 5:38:59 PM PDT
by
RKBA Democrat
(Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
To: Sabatier
Rowan Atkinson is Mr. Bean.
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posted on
05/02/2006 5:41:17 PM PDT
by
visualops
(This isn't Mexico... www.visualops.com ...let's keep it that way!)
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Horror bump.
Will the States be it?
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posted on
05/02/2006 5:41:43 PM PDT
by
Chickensoup
(The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
But who will save Protestantism in Europe? Probably the football hooligans.
To: RKBA Democrat
Cultural surrender will happen on a worldwide basis. There is nothing holding it back. Name one place in the world where people will stand up to these Islamic people and win.
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posted on
05/02/2006 5:56:15 PM PDT
by
Chickensoup
(The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
To: Chickensoup
I doubt it.
You go to Africa and there are churches, vibrant growing churches all over the place.
The same thing in South America and in the Philippines. All of these areas that were once where missionaries were sent are now places that send missionaries. The numbers are small but growing.
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posted on
05/02/2006 5:58:38 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(I am only an evil INTERN. I am still learning.)
To: NZerFromHK
The Dutch lady lives in a rough part of Amsterdam and says, when youre on the street in Islamic garb, the Muslim men smile at you respectfully instead of jeering at you as an infidel whore. The English lady lives in a swank part of London but says pretty much the same thing. Both felt there was not just a physical but a psychological security in being dressed Muslim. Theyre not reverts, but, at least for the purposes of padding the public space, theyre passing for Muslim in public. This is telling. Scary, and telling. Intimidation.
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posted on
05/02/2006 5:58:47 PM PDT
by
Ramius
(Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
To: NZerFromHK
As for the gals, I was startled in successive weeks to hear from both Dutch and English acquaintances that theyve begun going out covered. The Dutch lady lives in a rough part of Amsterdam and says, when youre on the street in Islamic garb, the Muslim men smile at you respectfully instead of jeering at you as an infidel whore. My very wise mom long ago pointed out that "the pendulum swings." The free-love sexual "revolution" that began in the 60s, she says, swung the pendulum to the extreme of sexual promiscuity. It's created a world today in which it is deemed "normal" for people to have sex before marriage as well as live together (and even have kids) without the benefit of matrimony (I always called it "playing house"). My mom's prediction has for years been that such promiscuity will inevitably, eventually result in a polar opposite of extreme sexual repression. How that "pendulum swing" would manifest itself she has not ventured to say, only that it will surely happen. Maybe this piece from the excellent Steyn hints at the way the pendulum swing will exhibit itself in society?
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posted on
05/02/2006 6:00:47 PM PDT
by
Finny
(God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
To: Chickensoup; Harmless Teddy Bear
And also East Asian places like Singapore, Hong Kong, Korea, Taiwan, and even the PRC. There, the evangelical churches are thriving. Politically they may be pacifist for the time being, but on the gospel and faith they are so arch-orthodox/fundamentalist/conservative that make Jerry Falwell and James Dobson sound like moderate secularists.
It is from them that the "Back to Jerusalem" evangelism campaigns are taking place.
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posted on
05/02/2006 6:01:57 PM PDT
by
NZerFromHK
(Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
To: NZerFromHK; Chickensoup
Don't forget what used to be the East European block. It will be a few years yet but they are growing nicely.
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posted on
05/02/2006 6:05:11 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(I am only an evil INTERN. I am still learning.)
To: Sabatier
Rowan Atkinson
Hrrrmmmmmmm?
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posted on
05/02/2006 6:07:39 PM PDT
by
FreedomNeocon
(Better to take what they can throw at us now,rather than take what they promise to throw at us later)
To: Finny
I personally believe Europeans and American liberals will turn pro-family and moralist at least on social issues, but rather than to the Christian or traditionlist Chsistendom directions, it will be towards Islamism motions.
We can easily envision something like this: In 2035 the British Parliament passes the Third Reading of Alcohols Act which bans productions and consumptions of all alcohol acts, while the US Senator Dr Abdul Aziz (D-MI) has called for his Democratic colleagues to ban abortions altogether, and the French National Assembly has passed laws proposed by President Mohammad al-Sahr banning sales and possessions of pornography and pre-marital sexual acts.
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posted on
05/02/2006 6:08:01 PM PDT
by
NZerFromHK
(Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
To: visualops; Sabatier
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posted on
05/02/2006 6:08:48 PM PDT
by
Das Outsider
(Are Marxist academics and apostate bishops trustworthy enough to tell you who the "real" Jesus is?)
To: Ramius
This is telling. Scary, and telling. Intimidation.
Yes, a time when it will be more socially advantageous to pose as a Muslim so as to avoid their wrath of peace, brotherhood, and explosives.
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posted on
05/02/2006 6:12:04 PM PDT
by
Das Outsider
(Are Marxist academics and apostate bishops trustworthy enough to tell you who the "real" Jesus is?)
To: atomic_dog
Well the US evangelists are pretty great at building kid centered churches that attract thousands. Our local one is Presbyterian, which is native to England.
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