Posted on 04/25/2006 8:07:22 PM PDT by x5452
Bush Says 'Tragedy' not 'Genocide' for 1915 Events
By Cihan News Agency, Washington
Published: Tuesday, April 25, 2006
zaman.com
US President George W. Bush has describe the incidents that took place in 1915 as “a tragedy”, in the message he prepared for the 91st anniversary of the so-called Armenian genocide allegations.
The White House announcement reads that the events were a tragedy for mankind and should never be forgotten. Bush, overlooking the demands of the Armenian Diaspora, did not term the incidents as “genocide.”
The event is a source of pain for all Armenians, the. President acknowledged, and Americans feel deeply for this page in history.
Bush invited all parties to take part in dialogue and determine common understanding, and he praised the parties in both Turkey and Armenia who examine the happenings of 1915 impartially, accurately and sensitively.
The Armenian Diaspora alleges a genocide occurred, Armenians were forced to leave their home in 1915; Turkey, on the contrary, refutes these allegations and advocates the deaths were caused by difficult road and weather conditions during the migration.
I should hope they don't pull a double standard on this.
On what might at first glance be a totally unrelated note - if all you knew about it was what was in the article - Islam is a religion of peace.
Now what happened almost 100 years ago is GWB`s fault? Who knew?
Calling what happened to Christians in Armenia tragic but not genocide is the lowest for of political BS.
This is just a vote of support so that those responsible cannot be held responsible for their crimes because they are 'allies'.
That is laughable. I suppose the Jews shot by the Nazis just accidentally walked into a speeding bullet.
Hey Prez---we do not need the lying scummy Turks! Call a spade a spade. They are butchers and are responsible for the 20th century's first genocide of christians. Actually Muslim Turks are responsible for horrors never seen in Europe for a thousand years.
Okay, the systematic murder of 1.5 million people because they are Armenian isn't genocide, then by the same rationale, the murder of 6 million Jews isn't either. The Ottomans wanted to murder all of the Christians in their empire. Greeks, Assyrians and other Christian groups met the same fate.
The Ottomans loved to trap people in their churches and light them afire with people inside.
I find this double standard sickening.
I will hold my tongue about what I think of Bush's words on this one because it makes me see purple.
Muslim Turks were reaponsible for the Albigensian Crusade? Surely you jest
The word 'genocide' didn't even exist in 1915.
The genocide of the Armenians killed far more people than the Albigensian crusade. Wikipedia says 500,000 people were killed, but that comes from a very bigoted source, on that claims that the Dominicans were founded to kill off the Albigensians, although Wikipedia corrects that nonsense. Unfortunately, nearly every source I can find seems to be tracing to that same source, or is from the same brand of pagan that insists that tens of millions of witches were burned by the Catholic Church. (The Catholic church didn't burn witches.)
The two battles which seem to be bt far the most horrific saw the deaths of 10,000-20,000 each. Such figures are easier to find for the individual battles. A few of them note that some estimates of the dead are as high as 100,000. I am tempted to believe that Wikipedia's source (a Languedoc tourist site!) uses those high estmates; it's hard to see how the other battles (a few hundred dead here, a few hundred dead there) add up to more than a few tens of thousands.
Fewer people were around in the 13th century
And the killing it wasn;t just battles
Say 200,000 MURDER BY GOVERNMENT
Last I checked, 1.5 million > 200,000.
We Americans are paying Turkey the Jizya to the tune of billions and Bush hosts Ramadan feasts in the White House and he tells one and all Islam is a Religion of Peace. Not telling the truth about the Genocide of Armenians is in keeping with America's willing embrace of dhimmitude
Can you have a "genocide" if the ethnic/linguistic/religious group still exists after the event?
Yes, genocide is a UN legal term. You'll note the holocaust was genocide and there's still jews.
The fact is the international community wants good relations with turkey so they're refusing to hold them accountable.
Theres a reason folks are not using that word, and it has to do with it being a legal definition at the UN.
Proclamation 4838 of April 22, 1981
Days of Remembrance of Victims of the Holocaust by the President of the United States of America
The Congress of the United States established the United States Holocaust Memorial Council to create a living memorial to the victims of the Nazi Holocaust. Its purpose: So mankind will never lose memory of that terrible moment in time when the awful specter of death camps stained the history of our world.
When America and its allies liberated those haunting places of terror and sick destructiveness, the world came to a vivid and tragic understanding of the evil it faced in those years of the Second World War. Each of those names — Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Dachau, Treblinka and so many others — became synonymous with horror.
The millions of death, the gas chambers, the inhuman crematoria, and the thousands of people who somehow survived with lifetime scars are all now part of the conscience of history. Forever must we remember just how precious is civilization, how important is liberty, and how heroic is the human spirit.
Like the genocide of the Armenians before it, and the genocide of the Cambodians which followed it — and like too many other such persecutions of too many other peoples — the lessons of the Holocaust must never be forgotten.
*Islam has been the mortal enemy of Christians and Jews for over 13 Centuries. Fear of the truth will not serve America well
Thanks for the information. With that cleared up, I'm still puzzled as to what anyone expects to have done, now, in order to prevent the genocide of Armenians in 1916-18.
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