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To: kellynla

What we need are more refineries. Oil's there. But if you can't make it into fuel oil or gasoline, what good is it?


3 posted on 04/25/2006 7:31:47 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

"What we need are more refineries. Oil's there. But if you can't make it into fuel oil or gasoline, what good is it?"

BINGO.

Pay thanks to GORE and crowd for that.


6 posted on 04/25/2006 7:33:12 AM PDT by roaddog727 (eludium PU36 explosive space modulator)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Ayup. There are actually tankers full of oil floating around the atlantic, because they have no place to put it.


14 posted on 04/25/2006 7:36:46 AM PDT by patton (Once you steal a firetruck, there's really not much else you can do except go for a joyride.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

What we need is tighter enforcment and regulation of the futures market and prosecution of those guilty of manipulating it. This is why gas is high right now, it has NOTHING to do with shortages of supply or increase in demand... just pure and simple greed and corruption in the futures market.


18 posted on 04/25/2006 7:38:43 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

We need to start drilling in ANWR, we need more refining capacity, we need to push alternative fuels and business and government together need to seriously push hybrid veichles.


27 posted on 04/25/2006 7:41:17 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Absolutely correct.

We need more refineries and now.


39 posted on 04/25/2006 7:46:16 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
We've needed more refineries since the 1970's........
56 posted on 04/25/2006 7:57:17 AM PDT by b4its2late (If it's treason, there's no doubt a democrat is standing behind it.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
What we need are more refineries.

What we also need is to reduce dependence on foreign energy sources.

72 posted on 04/25/2006 8:11:28 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Does anyone have proof that the refineries are the bottleneck when it comes to gasoline cost/production. I have heard this many times now, but have never seen any documentation which proves the case. Do we have excess crude coming into the country that simply cannot be refined fast enough? Any links would be appreciated.


104 posted on 04/25/2006 8:29:45 AM PDT by cccp_hater (Just the facts please)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
What we need are more refineries.

And an end to the stupid requirement to add 10% Ethanol, which is resulting in regional shortages.

114 posted on 04/25/2006 8:35:09 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
What we need are more refineries. Oil's there. But if you can't make it into fuel oil or gasoline, what good is it?

IIRC: A good refinery can get about 37 gallons of gasoline from a barrel of oil. With the cost of oil at $75/bbl at the well head that means the cost of raw materials is right at $2.00/gal at the well head since taxes are about $.40/gal that makes the cost of a gallon of gasoline $2.40/gal. add to this crude oil transportation costs, refining costs, additive costs and distribution costs it looks to me that $3.00/gal gasoline is not really such a bad deal. When crude prices drop $10/bbl then the gas cost drops about $.24/gal with all others costs fixed.

169 posted on 04/25/2006 9:35:11 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Sure the oil is there but everyones so damned concerned about breaking a blade of grass while trying to drill.


279 posted on 04/25/2006 2:53:30 PM PDT by warsaw44 (BUILD THE WALL)
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To: All
The problems, as usual, is the drive-by media. They have no interest in telling the truth. Most sheeple don't have a rudimentary knowledge of economics. Thats about all I have but it's above average perhaps. The drive-by media types are fueling (bad pun) much of this hysteria.

An interesting look at some numbers I have heard on Hannity and Rush.

42 gallons of oil in a barrel. Current price is 72 dollars per barrel. That's about 1.79 per gallon (or 57 percent of the final cost of a 3 dollar gallon of gas) 1.79 before it's even shipped or refined. Brutal.

That's not even taking into account the reported .60 cents per gallon some poor sucker in New York (the common man if you will) pays PER gallon in taxes.

If the oil companies make about 10 percent (lets say 30 cents a gallon for kicks), and the gas station makes about 10 to 18 cents per gallon, then WTF is with the State's making TWENTY percent of the cost per gallon.

Twenty percent in NY per gallon. Brutal. That would be about 4 dollars of tax for my rig per fill-up.

And we have more socialism to look forward to from congress when they start blaming the oil companies and regulating the market.

And it's all Bush's fault? I put the blame squarely on the RATS. No refineries. No ANWR drilling. No Gulf of mexico drilling (at least not by us). No California off shore drilling.

294 posted on 04/25/2006 8:57:42 PM PDT by ottersnot ("Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.")
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