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President gets tepid welcome on GOP turf -- Immigration policies vigorously opposed
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 4/25/6 | Carla Marinucci

Posted on 04/25/2006 5:51:39 AM PDT by SmithL

Irvine -- President Bush, aiming to shore up sagging support in a Republican bastion, came for a heart-to-heart talk on immigration Monday, acknowledging that some were puzzled by his choice of Orange County -- the heart of an area opposed to his immigration policies.

"That's what a leader does," Bush told a crowd of 450 business leaders at the Hyatt Regency Irvine as he roamed the room with a microphone during an hourlong town hall-style meeting.

The president, before a phalanx of signs decorated with flags and eagles proclaiming "Securing the American Dream," emphasized securing the borders, dealing with the nation's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants and passing immigration reform in Congress.

Talking to a skeptical audience, Bush said the heated rhetoric surrounding immigration must be cooled. Conduct the debate, he said, "in a respectful way that recognizes we are a nation of immigrants, that we have had a grand tradition in this country of welcoming people into our society."

"It's an emotional debate, but one thing we cannot lose sight of is that we're talking about human beings, decent human beings," he said. "Massive deportation of the people here is unrealistic. It's just not going to work."

But even as he spoke, the breadth of the president's political problems on immigration was evident in Orange County -- a longtime GOP stronghold that is being transformed by a vast influx of immigrant laborers, mostly from Mexico. From Republican-dominated Newport Beach to Democratic-leaning Santa Ana, interviews found few supporters for Bush's positions.

The president's conservative base is angry with his support for a guest-worker program,

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bordersecurity; bushamnesty; calvisit; illegalaliens; illegals; invasionusa; openborders; presidentbush
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To: x1stcav

Disenchanted? rofl We are not disenchanted! Disgusted, sick, tired, etc. but not disenchanted. Disenchanted doesn't even come close.


21 posted on 04/25/2006 6:56:00 AM PDT by sheana
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To: SmithL
he said, "in a respectful way that recognizes we are a nation of immigrants,

Man, this is straight out of the Dem's talking points.

Hide the bad stuff in with the good stuff then get them to swallow the good stuff.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION != LEGAL IMMIGRATION!!!!!

What's so difficult about this concept??

It's intuitively obvious to me that neither the President, nor the House or Senate GOP are in any way "conservative"

Just vote pigs. Anything for a vote.

22 posted on 04/25/2006 7:05:00 AM PDT by America's Resolve (Illegal Amnesty in 86 and 06, so expect more in 2026, 2046, 2066 and 2086. Doom for America!)
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To: reagan_fanatic
I can't believe GWB doesn't know the important difference between legal and illgal immigrants. He is just one of those (mostly liberals) who are doing their best to fuzz the distinction. It's not an honest stance.
23 posted on 04/25/2006 7:06:08 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: KoRn

The fact is, there are jobs 'Americans won't do' for near slave wages.

Americans can't afford to live on a $1000 a month salary and pay $1500 a month for living expenses. But then, we are not allowed to collect welfare, free housing, free medical, etc. while working for peanuts either. Politicians like to cover this up by insulting American work ethics.


24 posted on 04/25/2006 7:07:45 AM PDT by VOATNOW1
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To: oldbill

Oh how we need a Lincoln!!


25 posted on 04/25/2006 7:09:16 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: oldbill
Maybe 100 years from now the Latino States of America will look upon George Bush as their Simon Bolivar.

Nah, more like five...maybe ten.

Bolivar? Maybe Fulgencio Batista. Guess who came after him....

26 posted on 04/25/2006 7:09:41 AM PDT by stboz
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To: KoRn
A corollary to "jobs Americans won't do" is the fact that many illegals are doing jobs American could and would do but can't because they are filled by illegal immigrants!
27 posted on 04/25/2006 7:11:49 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: nathanbedford

The decline prededes the fall.


28 posted on 04/25/2006 7:14:22 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: GOPologist

Democrats have as much to worry about as Republicans do on this. Most Blacks are opposed to the Bush/Kennedy/McCain/Hillary/ amnesty for illegal aliens as are just about all legal immigrants including Hispanics.

If Democrats lose an additional 10% of the Black vote in any national election, and in most state wide elections, they are in trouble. The House isn’t as much of a problem because the districts are gerrymandered to be safe.

I know the people who run this group. http://www.alamo-coalition.org They are growing every day and about to make some noise. There are other Black groups getting involved too, which will be a big help in the fight.

Democrats are feeling the heat too. This, IMO, is why Dean is starting to talk about enforcement first.

The key to winning this fight is to keep the pressure up. The pro-criminal forces have the leadership of both parties, but we have the people and the votes.


29 posted on 04/25/2006 7:15:23 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: luvbach1

Should have been "precedes" Sorry.


30 posted on 04/25/2006 7:17:21 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: SUSSA
Dean is such a phony!!!
31 posted on 04/25/2006 7:18:19 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: SmithL
He's on TV right now vilifying Oil companies. He is a Democrat.

And Democrats hate him and conservatives have abandoned him. Hence the popularity index in the 30's.

He sucks.

32 posted on 04/25/2006 7:20:46 AM PDT by Protagoras (The world is full of successful idiots and genius failures.)
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To: luvbach1

Most of them are.

But one of my tenants was part of a committee that went to Eddie Bernice Johnson’s office about this and met with her Legislative Asst. She told the group that they were getting lots of calls on this and the calls were 3 to 1 against amnesty and a guest worker program.

Most politicians don’t like going against those kinds of pissed off voters. Dean is enough of an opportunist to at least give them some verbal cover so Democrats in tight races can vote against the Bush/Kennedy/McCain/Hillary forces. The RNC doesn’t have that luxury.


33 posted on 04/25/2006 7:33:44 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: SmithL

All the "brains" inthe WH can't figure out that the Presidents low approval is directly related to his coddling of the law breaking, social parasites, called illegal aliens.


34 posted on 04/25/2006 7:35:47 AM PDT by marty60
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To: nathanbedford

Bravo !


35 posted on 04/25/2006 7:50:44 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: SmithL

The Orange County Register -= the paper of record on Southern California had a different take and, a supportive OpEd.

www.ocregister.com


36 posted on 04/25/2006 7:52:46 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: GOPologist

Here in Orange County everybody is unimpressed.

Even Machiavelli noted that a leader should stick with a bold plan. Bush must have missed that page.


37 posted on 04/25/2006 7:56:01 AM PDT by Loud Mime (The Answer: Turn Illegal immigrants into gasoline!)
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To: nathanbedford
The Republican Party is peering into the abyss and it's Bush's fault. The party will be lucky to salvage control of one house out of the wreckage of November's election. The damage will not be contained in 2006 and a Democrat victory is virtually assured for the White House in 2008.

I totally agree with you on the above. President Bush is a lost cause to the majority of Republicans, IOW those not connected with the big business concerns that drive the President's unstoppable urge to reward lawbreakers and outlaws as long as they work cheap and keep their mouths shut.

The sad part is the repub rank and file will have to live with the political results of the President's insane amnesty plans this year and the next two as well.

Whats really ironic is the very people that GWB champions, the illegal aliens are pretty much 100% opposed to him and his party and will become faithful Democratic party voters at the first opportunity!

Apparently George Bush and his party are in the process of committing political suicide. The speech in Orange county is a slap in the face to law-abiding, tax paying repubs everywhere! This just shows the depths that the neo-cons, free traitors and open borders crowd will go to worship the almighty dollar.

38 posted on 04/25/2006 7:56:38 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Walkin Man

Our check book republicans are killing us. They allow RINO's and put business ahead of country. Until the base retakes the party, we will have problems.


39 posted on 04/25/2006 8:16:35 AM PDT by Jim Verdolini (We had it all, but the RINOs stalked the land and everything they touched was as dung and ashes!)
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To: nathanbedford

I would expect nothing less than that rant from someone who so deeply admires the founder of the Ku Klux Klan.


40 posted on 04/25/2006 8:19:38 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Not for just an hour. Not for just a day. Not for just a year.)
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