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Had there been ANWR, we might not have $4-a-gallon gas
Anchorage Daily News ^ | April 21, 2006 | Voice of the Times

Posted on 04/21/2006 4:16:43 PM PDT by Species8472

The gasoline prices at the pump in Washington, D.C., are headed for $4 a gallon, after surpassing the $3 mark a week ago. So say those who follow the 40-cent-a-month increases that have been the rule since the cherry blossoms bloomed.

You wonder whether anybody in the Senate or the House has noticed.

They blame everybody but themselves for the predicament facing motorists across the nation, including here in Alaska, as the summer driving season nears.

It’s the fault of President Bush. It’s Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfelt’s fault. Blame it on our presence in Iraq. Russia surely has something to do with it. And maybe even the debate on immigration reform. Anybody and anything but those members of Congress who steadfastly have refused to vote for oil exploration and development on the coastal plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

Oil from ANWR would now be flowing to market had not former President Bill Clinton, wrapped in the green coat of environmental extremism, vetoed legislation that would have opened the coastal plain. Since then, renewed efforts to get production from this barren coastline have failed under pressure from environmental lobbies and congressmen seeking election votes rather than searching for energy supplies.

Sen. Maria Cantwell, the Washington state Democrat who is running for re-election, is one of the anti-ANWR champions. She and others like her argue that opening ANWR now would not relieve crude oil shortages now.

She’s right, of course. It will take 10 years, the experts say, for exploration and development to reach the point where discoveries can begin to flow south in the trans-Alaska pipeline.

But had not Clinton scrubbed the previous deal, ANWR oil would be on the market now.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Alaska; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 109th; alaska; anwr; energy; gasprices; obstructionistdems; oil
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To: Dark Skies
we'd suck that hole dry in 526 days

Lets see, 10 Billion bbl of oil at $70 per bbl is more dollars than I can count and thats money that would stay in the USA instead of of funding an Islamic Jihad or a central American revolution. Estimates are that it would provide over 700,000 US jobs. The lease fees alone would generate better than 3 billion dollars before a drop of oil is even pumped.

21 posted on 04/21/2006 5:17:24 PM PDT by Species8472
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To: Cville
That BS excuse doesn't fly.

I didn't say we shouldn't drill and pump.

I am trying to put it in perspective.

We need more than ANWR.

22 posted on 04/21/2006 5:19:45 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies
Absolutely agree. The price of gas right now is not a reflection of supply and demand. Certainly, there is more at play.

Although they might hope we are simple enough to believe that and exhaust our time and energy fighting amoungst ourselves about where to drill, and who didn't vote on drilling. Keeps us too busy to notice....things.

23 posted on 04/21/2006 5:36:08 PM PDT by softengine ("As I've matured, I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. ")
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To: Dark Skies

The Answer is simple,we dont need oil

www.hemp4fuel.com


24 posted on 04/21/2006 5:41:17 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: kimosabe31
I am sorry but there are Repubs. that are as much against Anwr as the Demos.

It seems that any country that has a shoreline is drilling off that shore. Brazil for instance has just hit a major find. When they get up to full production they will be self sufficient, along with their sugar cane and ethanol.
25 posted on 04/21/2006 5:47:59 PM PDT by frannie (Be not afraid of tomorrow - God is already there!)
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To: MrShoop

The lib environmentalists are destroying the country and the GOP that controls both the WH and capitol hill stands by and does nothing.


26 posted on 04/21/2006 6:08:31 PM PDT by kimosabe31
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To: Species8472
We just had an article here on FR that there is so much crude that there isn't even enough storage for it. We need refineries.

ANWR is a piece of the puzzle, a way to hedge in the future but we need to do other things: demand better fuel economy both in gov't standards and as consumers, drive more smartly (use cruise control if you have it, reduce your speeding, consolidate trips) and support getting away from oil longer term: biodiesel, hybrids, hydrogen research.

If we don't begin to seriously curtail our need for oil we'll be in major trouble when China truly booms in its oil demands. This is a national security issue and why we're not talking it more seriously I can only guess.

I think the pricing right now is a factor of pathetic competition forces, greed and the excuse that Iran could start another war which will threaten supplies.

27 posted on 04/21/2006 6:34:58 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't use illegals: HIREPATRIOTS.COM)
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To: Dark Skies
Let us remind the freepers of some facts first.

1. With a typical pipeline system you will only be able to deliver 500,000bbl per day at best. That would equal 50+ years of service. Yes, it is only 5% of our daily consumption but it is a start.

2. The reason that most of our current Alaska crude is sold overseas is because there is no refining capacity on the west coast. If we don't build more refineries on the Left Coast or Alaska, all the crude in the world won't lower our gas prices at the pump or your heating oil.

3. The reason that LNG is so high is because in 1994 America was sold on how cheap LNG will be in the future. Well of course all the new housing being built (McMansions) for the last 10 years are heated by LNG. Add to that demand the new power plants which came on line during the last 10 years, most are LNG powered because it is "cleaner" than coal. Demand has exceeded the ability to deliver.

4. Hurricane Katrina took most of our Gulf Coast refining capacity offline which compounded our national demand for gasoline but we also refined crude for other countries so to try and fill existing contracts the American consumer gets shorted which helps drive the price up.

5. We have two hotheads who are hyping their ability to hurt America through oil. They are; Iran and Venezuela.

6. Increased demand from China and India, two countries which don't have the same concerns as America does about the environment. The Chinese Government is building a large refining ability which will demand crude oil. China may be a leading seller of refined fuel products in 20 years.

7. Regular maintenance at current refineries requires them to be offline for weeks at a time. Spring is a regular service time as the refinery changes from making heating oil to making gasoline.

8. East Coast refineries are making a change from MTBE (sp?)to ethanol as a clean burning fuel additive. For each gallon of ethanol used is over one gallon of crude we do not have to import.

9. Something no one talks about is how America got repaid for the cost of Gulf War I. No one talks about the fact that we got cheap oil for ten years from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait to repay our war expenses. That ended just as GWB was taking office.

10 SUV's !!! American consumer demand for gasoline shot up because we were getting cheap gas in the 90's and the economy was doing well so people felt they could afford a little more car.

And people wonder why we are paying more for gas at the pump. ANWR is not the cure all but it would help. Also if we don't pump it Canada will. People forget that the oil field under ANWR also stretches into Canada. First come, first served. Grab it now!

No2
28 posted on 04/21/2006 6:37:03 PM PDT by No2much3 (I did not ask for this user name, but I will keep it !)
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To: Species8472

ANWR by itself may produce 1 million barrels a day for ten years, which is in the same range as Prudhoe now, and NPR-A. Prudhoe produced about 2 million barrels a day at first, 20 years ago, and that was a bonanza. Oil consumption world-wide is 82 million barrels a day and in the US about 22 million barrels a day. This production is about what Saudi tries to increase from their fields every year lately. The effect on oil prices would be in the range of zero since North Slope oil production is not cheap, and the price of North Slope oil is only a couple dollars below some of the major indices.


29 posted on 04/21/2006 6:43:41 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Species8472
Recent Estimates say that there are 10 BILLION BBL's under the permafrost.

Seems to go up every time I hear about it.

30 posted on 04/21/2006 6:45:18 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: No2much3
5. We have two hotheads who are hyping their ability to hurt America through oil. They are; Iran and Venezuela.

There's another enemy who isn't a hothead...but it pours cash into hostile islam (Wahhabism)...Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia has done much more to damage the West than Iran or Chavez.

The royal family might be Bush family friends...but they are not friends of American.


31 posted on 04/21/2006 6:46:42 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Species8472

BTTT


32 posted on 04/21/2006 6:47:47 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Zeroisanumber
Seems to go up every time I hear about it

Part of that is the relative success at Prudhoe in getting fairly decent production from a field that was originally estimated to be depleted by now. Technology, geological knowledge make more oil available than would have been expected thirty years ago from the same field. ANWR should benefit from what has been learned at Prudhoe.

33 posted on 04/21/2006 6:50:19 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Species8472

Recent Estimates say that there are 10 BILLION BBL's under the permafrost.""

Wasn't there a thread here just a couple of days ago about a larger find in Utah/Colorado?????


34 posted on 04/21/2006 6:57:50 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Dark Skies

Obviously, you believe that should ANWR be drilled, we would stop production of all our other oil fields and stop the importation of all foreign oil...

And focus solely on using ONLY the oil found in ANWR.

Okaaaaaay...


35 posted on 04/21/2006 7:29:36 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: ridesthemiles

Oil Shale - Very expensive to extract


36 posted on 04/21/2006 7:52:06 PM PDT by Species8472
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To: Dark Skies
The U.S. uses around 19 million bbl's per day...we'd suck that hole dry in 526 days. What next?

ANWR can't be recovered at 19 million barrels per day. It would add supply to the market, driving down costs over a longer period, not just 526 days.

37 posted on 04/21/2006 9:05:05 PM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: Species8472
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38 posted on 04/21/2006 9:09:44 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President** I get it, Glenn.)
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To: mountn man
if ANWR were opened up, the remoteness and harsh conditions on man and machinery, would require that the cost of gas be high in order to justify its development and operation.

Bullsh!t. ANWR coastal plain would be no harder to produce than the rest of the North Slope. And it kept producing when oil was $10~12 eight years ago.

39 posted on 04/21/2006 9:27:58 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: No2much3
The reason that most of our current Alaska crude is sold overseas is because there is no refining capacity on the west coast.

Alaskan North Slope Oil is NOT sold overseas. This has been the case for all but 4 years of the nearly 3 decades of Alaskan oil production. Between 1996-1999 5.5% of North Slope oil was exported to Asian countries. These exports were overwhelmingly supported by the US Congress and by the Clinton Administration to offset an oil glut in California at the time. In June 2000 Alaskan oil again ceased to be exported, and 100% of Alaskan production has stayed in America.

The West coast not only has enough refineries to take all of the Alaska oil and the oil produced on the West Coast, it imports and refines an additional 900,000 Barrel per day.

Well of course all the new housing being built (McMansions) for the last 10 years are heated by LNG.

Homes are not heated with LNG.

but we also refined crude for other countries so to try and fill existing contracts the American consumer gets shorted which helps drive the price up.

Nonsense.

40 posted on 04/21/2006 9:43:06 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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