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04/20/06 FOX Poll: Gloomy Economic Views; Bush Approval at New Low
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192468,00.html ^

Posted on 04/20/2006 11:02:34 AM PDT by Grendel9

NEW YORK — More Americans disapprove than approve of how George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld and Congress are doing their jobs, while a majority approves of Condoleezza Rice. President Bush’s approval hits a record low of 33 percent this week, clearly damaged by sinking support among Republicans.

Opinions are sharply divided on whether Rumsfeld should resign as secretary of defense. In addition, views on the economy are glum; most Americans rate the current economy negatively, and twice as many say it feels like the economy is getting worse rather than better. These are just some of the findings of the latest FOX News national poll.

President Bush’s job approval rating slipped this week and stands at a new low of 33 percent approve, down from 36 percent two weeks ago and 39 percent in mid-March. A year ago this time, 47 percent approved and two years ago 50 percent approved (April 2004).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; foxpoll; jobapproval; polls; term2
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To: Grendel9

A fundamental split is taking place in our understanding of what it means to be conservative. As a fiscal conservative I am for free trade, balanced budgets and low taxes. I favor accelerated immigration to support a growing economy. I know it is complex but I favor both open borders and better security. I know we are clever enough to do both. I loath increased government meddling in our business and personal affairs. I have come to realize that I have no idea what social conservatives really want.


201 posted on 04/20/2006 1:19:15 PM PDT by spatso
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To: Dane
Dane you're high right now aren't you. You're high and just having a gay ole time getting your kicks baiting conservatives. I can see the Doritoe crumbs on your keyboard from here. Put the joint down Dane. Remember crack is whack. See ya tomorrow.
202 posted on 04/20/2006 1:20:23 PM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: Petronski
That's a big difference: the first is a prison, the second a shield

Then why didn't Ronald Reagan propose a wall.

Oh I forgot, he was actually intellectually honest, unlike some of his psuedo followers on FR, when he stated "Mr. Grobachev tear down this wall" and was the originator of NAFTA.

203 posted on 04/20/2006 1:20:27 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: spatso

"A fundamental split is taking place in our understanding of what it means to be conservative."

I think it has always been an uneasy alliance between the fiscal conservatives and the social conservatives.

Put me down with the fiscal conservatives.

I've always thought that some of the wishes of the social conservatives directly clash with the "smaller, less intrusive government" wishes of the fiscal conservatives.

Probably makes me a Country Club Republican.


205 posted on 04/20/2006 1:25:08 PM PDT by daysailor
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To: Dane
Dane! I asked for another one of your nonsensical photos and all you gave was nonsense text. Come on! You can do better.
206 posted on 04/20/2006 1:25:11 PM PDT by dagnabbit (George Bush deported my children to Amerexico.)
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To: blaquebyrd
Dane you're high right now aren't you. You're high and just having a gay ole time getting your kicks baiting conservatives.

Uh no, you DUmmie trolls do the baiting yourselves.

207 posted on 04/20/2006 1:26:04 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
Then why didn't Ronald Reagan propose a wall.

The problem wasn't that bad at the time. His failure to propose it does not prove opposition to the idea. For all we know, he considered it but did not propose it.

"Tear down this wall" is about liberating a population, not about throwing down a nation's defenses. Support for NAFTA does not equate to support for unfettered immigration.

208 posted on 04/20/2006 1:26:08 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Dane

"JMO, you are a different side of the same communist coin.

Ala hitler/stalin."

AHHH. That's better Dane. More like the old Dane I used to know. More imaginative.


209 posted on 04/20/2006 1:26:22 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
one must assume a common external influence is at work.

While I agree with what I believe to be your bottom line (negative MSM coverage as a causation), I'm not sure I agree that one must assume a (presumably single) common influence is at work. There may be more than one that cause a bias in a common, here negative, direction, but for different reasons.

Some might be influenced by gasoline and / or diesel prices. Others, such as in my area of the country, by spikes in property insurance. Still others by increases in the costs of medical care. And yet others influenced by downward pressures in wages in their occupational group by an overwhelming influx of illegal alien workers, such as drywallers. In short, I believe that multiple causes are as credible an explanation as is a single cause. More probably, we are both correct - it is all of the above.

210 posted on 04/20/2006 1:28:27 PM PDT by surely_you_jest
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To: Petronski
The problem wasn't that bad at the time. His failure to propose it does not prove opposition to the idea. For all we know, he considered it but did not propose it

Uh then why did Ronald Reagan propose NAFTA?

211 posted on 04/20/2006 1:28:57 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: blaquebyrd

Today I broke my usual policy of not feeding the few Mexico-merger trolls hopping about on FR. Fun for a bit, but ultimately not worth the time.


212 posted on 04/20/2006 1:30:00 PM PDT by dagnabbit (George Bush deported my children to Amerexico.)
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To: Dane

Support of NAFTA has nothing to do with support for unfettered illegal immigration. You've made no connection between them.

You seem to think NAFTA means unfettered shipment of whatever they want, whenever they want, into the US. Not so.


213 posted on 04/20/2006 1:31:16 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Right.


214 posted on 04/20/2006 1:31:36 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: dagnabbit
Today I broke my usual policy of not feeding the few Mexico-merger trolls hopping about on FR.

I'm honored. I guess I am threat to your little, but very loud clique(kinda of akin to the cheerleader cliques in high school every one has dealt with).

215 posted on 04/20/2006 1:34:22 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: daysailor
I think it has always been an uneasy alliance between the fiscal conservatives and the social conservatives. ----------------------------------------


Yep .....thats why I sadly am sadly in the disapprove column W is a big government fiscal liberal
For me who I support for the POTUS is a involves a clear vision of a smaller government. ...the WOT...the border........his personal views on abortion are just part of the equation not a litmus test.
217 posted on 04/20/2006 1:41:53 PM PDT by Blackirish (Hillary is angry AND brittle.)
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To: Petronski
Support of NAFTA has nothing to do with support for unfettered illegal immigration. You've made no connection between them

Reagan had a vision of unfettered borders between the US, Canada, and Mexico, and not walls.

Thems the facts. I'll stick with Reagan's vision rather than the buchanans' or tancredo's.

218 posted on 04/20/2006 1:43:22 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: dagnabbit
I had forgotten, but I have to agree with that weirdness.

Not only have the American people been inundated with the Mexican flag in our streets and schools. Bush goes to Cancun, Mexico and puts a Mexican flag on his limo. There was also a picture of Bush holding a Mexican flag with a Mexican girl.

When was the last time we saw Bush holding an American flag?

219 posted on 04/20/2006 1:45:53 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Grendel9
In addition, views on the economy are glum; most Americans rate the current economy negatively, and twice as many say it feels like the economy is getting worse rather than better.

Yesterday I had a conversation with the plant manager of a small manufacturing firm in Tyler, Texas.

FYI, Tyler's population is about 90,000 and as of Feb. 2006, the unemployment rate is 4.5%. (Full employment, right?)

The plant manager was of the opinion the job market must be brutal. A couple of weeks ago, he placed a small ad for clerical help. Answering phones, typing etc. $6-$8 an hour, no benefits. He said over four days they had in excess of 200 calls and walk-ins applying for that position.

He was very uneasy about the situation.

220 posted on 04/20/2006 1:49:31 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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