Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Good News on FairTax
Town Hall . Com ^ | 4/13/06 | Herman Cain

Posted on 04/14/2006 2:42:07 PM PDT by Eaglewatcher

of good news is that support is growing for complete replacement of the tax code with a national consumption tax. More and more taxpayers are demanding action from their representatives in Congress, and their representatives are listening.

Just one year ago, there were 33 sponsors and co-sponsors of HR 25, The FairTax Act, in the U.S. House. Now there are 53 supporters, and new co-sponsors are joining every month. In the Senate, Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) was the lone sponsor of the FairTax Act, S 25, one year ago. Senators Tom Coburn (R-OK) and John Cornyn (R-TX) now join Senator Chambliss as co-sponsors. The word is spreading about the overwhelming benefits to our economy and our wallets when we replace the nine-million-word tax code mess with the fair and simple FairTax.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: economy; fair; fairtax; fraudtax; scam; tax
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 441-455 next last
To: pigdog
But would removing the prebate make the NRST more or less a "fairtax"?

81 posted on 04/15/2006 9:34:05 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: pigdog; Man50D; Eaglewatcher; lewislynn; Always Right
BTW, Ney IS listed as a cosponsor by THOMAS. Get you own "facts" straight; obviously we shouldn't trust you since you can't read!!
By gosh, you're right. AND HE'S LISTED TWICE BY THE AFT!! How's that for getting the facts straight?

What a sorry organization they are.
82 posted on 04/15/2006 9:47:19 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: groanup
Oh, jeez. I thought that was the whole article.
Which article? The one entitled "Good News on the FairTax"? I can't seem to find that one.
83 posted on 04/15/2006 9:50:58 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies]

To: Alissa
I'm not being sarcastic, but a family who makes $15K a year would pay the same amount as Bill Gates?

You get one vote and Bill Gates gets one vote, isn't being treated equally under the law what we want? Of course equal citizens should get an equal tax bill, that is if you belive in equality. If you don't believe in equality just say so, and I'm sure we can devise a system where your rights are dependent upon your "social class", also remember if you dont believe in equal rights, try not to ask for yours, cause you will not make a convincing case.

84 posted on 04/15/2006 10:28:27 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: ancient_geezer
Because equality is not a reasonable measure of fairness. For example, equal amount is not equivalent to equal burden among instances of variable capacity by any stretch of the imagination.

Is it fair for one man to have one vote? Equality may be a bitch, so what? Life ain't fair. Fairness, is like the "road of good intentions". Fairness is a tool the socialist use to create social divisions based upon social status, to tax the other group.

If every body paid the same equal bill to the tax man, politicians would not be able to play one group of taxpayers off against another. Sounds reasonable to me.

85 posted on 04/15/2006 10:39:49 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: William Terrell
But would removing the prebate make the NRST more or less a "fairtax"?

You can keep creating as many hypothetical scenarios as you want but it that won't change the fact it wouldn't the Fair Tax Act. It would be some other type of tax that would require a separate bill and would not be supported by Fair Taxers.
86 posted on 04/15/2006 10:43:01 AM PDT by Man50D
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: Diverdogz
"Radical" would be too kind a word. Try "UnAmerican" or "Unconstitutional". The vast majority of government employees work very hard and they all pay taxes just like everyone else. No taxation without representation ...and they get to vote on representatives just like everyone else

Anyone else paying money back to their employer is called a kickback, Government workers do a kickback and pass it off as paying taxes. The money flows out of the pot and right back into it, a mere exercise in smoke and mirrors, but it is not a tax. Taxes are collected from the private sector.

87 posted on 04/15/2006 10:48:11 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: Your Nightmare

At least you're admitting your error - a new first AFAIK.

I imagine they'll correct that as soon as it's brought to their attention ... perhaps you'd like to do that since it seems to bother you so?


88 posted on 04/15/2006 11:24:16 AM PDT by pigdog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: Alissa

NO it's not the same AMOUNT ... it's the same tax RATE.

And it's Bill Gates - although any Jim Gates would pay the same rate as would you and I on taxable things.


89 posted on 04/15/2006 11:27:19 AM PDT by pigdog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: Mark was here

See post #89.


90 posted on 04/15/2006 11:28:16 AM PDT by pigdog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 85 | View Replies]

To: Mark was here

Government workers have payroll taxes and income taxes withheld from their pay - it's called the government taxing itself.


91 posted on 04/15/2006 11:30:06 AM PDT by pigdog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: William Terrell
Did you read the quote in post 36 of this thread? If so, do you agree or disagree with Mr. Chodorov?

THAT is the only question worth pondering in the entire matter in my humble opinion.

92 posted on 04/15/2006 11:35:43 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: Man50D
You can keep creating as many hypothetical scenarios as you want but it that won't change the fact it wouldn't the Fair Tax Act. It would be some other type of tax that would require a separate bill and would not be supported by Fair Taxers.

You don't understand. The current NRST legislation will not pass both houses as written. I can't recall a bill that has. So, if that's the requirement, there will be no bill passed.

If the removal of the prebate will make the NRST bill less of a "fair tax", can you tell me why?

93 posted on 04/15/2006 11:36:30 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 86 | View Replies]

To: pigdog
At least you're admitting your error - a new first AFAIK.
You have frequently shown that you don't know much.


I imagine they'll correct that as soon as it's brought to their attention ... perhaps you'd like to do that since it seems to bother you so?
Isn't it interesting though that y'all trusted the AFT over the Library of Congress. Very telling.
94 posted on 04/15/2006 11:44:57 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | View Replies]

To: EternalVigilance

EV, did you see this press clipping from Iowa?




In support of the Fair Tax, Republican Presidential Candidate John Cox, a Chicago millionaire, CPA and investment advisor, has made the abolishment of the Federal Income Tax a focal point of his campaign.

Instead of a federal tax system that continues to become more and more complicated, and which punishes savings and investment while stifling productivity and prosperity, Cox is calling for the establishment of a national sales tax in its place.

This would not only engender significant economic growth but would also do something about the corruption in Washington DC, which is fueled in large part by the special interests who use the tax code to their benefit.

Cox is using what is hopefully a wonderful spring day in Des Moines to demonstrate that April 15th should be just another day and that U.S. taxpayers will be far more productive unburdened by the mammoth complexity of the current tax code.

In the past two months Cox has visited voters and party activists in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, states that played important roles in past elections. In each instance, he is finding a resonance with potential voters who are sharing with him their disgust of politics and politicians as usual.

His fresh approach to problem solving, the fact that he is not a Washington insider, jaded by the current polarization of parties, as well as his passionate expression of common sense solutions to the problems facing the US in the years ahead are the reasons why he is returning to Iowa again to meet with Republican voters an announce his tax reform plan on April 22nd at the state capitol.

John Cox is the only Presidential candidate or potential Presidential candiate who is supporting this tax reform. Cox will be available to talk with reporters in advance of the Monday afternoon event. To find out more about John Cox and his stand on the issues, visit www.cox2008.com.


95 posted on 04/15/2006 12:36:03 PM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Bigun
Actually, that is my point.

While I'm concerned about the amount of money taken from people's pockets, I'm more concerned with the amount of money going to the governments.

Socialist programs require vast amounts of substance to remain viable. Right now social security, the base program for our socialist structure, is starving to death. I want it to starve to death.

The NRST will fund it, and it's perpherial programs, into perpetuity. The viability of the NRST is itself dependent on socialist principles, the prebate, which is simply another form of redistribution of wealth. And the NRST depends on it.

All the arguments of "fair" rest on it. Every argument of unfairness of the NRST impacting low income and elderly is resisted by citing that provision.

While I'm not convinced that the NRST, when codified, will actually take less money from each citizen, I am convinced that more money will be funneled to the feds; this has been a high profile argument in favor of the NRST.

96 posted on 04/15/2006 12:42:45 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies]

To: William Terrell
Let me see if I follow your thinking.

You suggest that we should leave things alone (remain slaves) until the system eventually collapses of its own weight rather than remove the instrument which enslaves us and then work toward getting the government monster back in his cage.

Have I captured the essence of it?

97 posted on 04/15/2006 1:03:49 PM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | View Replies]

To: Bigun
And we will not be slaves under a consumption tax, where to resist means not being able to eat, travel, clothe ourselves, heat our homes and buy property?

98 posted on 04/15/2006 1:13:47 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 97 | View Replies]

To: William Terrell
While I'm concerned about the amount of money taken from people's pockets, I'm more concerned with the amount of money going to the governments.

Dang it, WT, someone as smart as you should easily grasp the difference between a tax bill and a spending bill...and that the kind of visibility that the retail sales tax affords will make it much, much easier to fight the battle against spending that is outside of the enumerated powers.

99 posted on 04/15/2006 1:26:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | View Replies]

To: Waywardson

Interesting.


100 posted on 04/15/2006 1:26:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 441-455 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson