Stunning facts about the proposed immigration bill

The other side is beside themselves because of a PC game called border patrol

I added them to our Group list thanks Em!

See why I was pulling my hair out after finding it?!

They can always ride their stolen bicycles, Newman

I got evicted from a home they purchased

Thank you very much!

Also you can always join our yahoo group just for this purpose

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Thanks to La Enchiladita for one of my favorites!

Thanks Joe Brower for a Great write!

May Day, mayday! by Joe Brower

Thanks for the ping Pro-Bush

Hundreds nabbed in immigration raid by HEMICRASHBOX

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Clueless in D.C. Ping! 32 posted on 04/20/2006 1:01:07 AM CDT by HiJinx

Chertoff plays down border incursion reports [January 18, 2006]

Thanks to HiJinx for this poing ~yes poing

Of course they are!

Rally Planned Against Raids Of Illegal Immigrants CBS affiliate, Chicago My City Sucks!

We're not the only city they were busted in, must be Alderman Guiterrez brainfart!

The consent searches and search warrants were conducted at locations in Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, South Carolina, Virginia and Utah.

Bureaucracy Ping! 5 posted on 04/20/2006 12:55:16 AM CDT by HiJinx

Failed bureaucracy An Agency Rife With Fraud Would Administer Guest-worker Program

# 1 Employers Of Illegal Workers Arrested

We are being Snowed People!

You may have been surprised to see that illegal immigrants were actually rounded up at a Houston business yesterday in an unusual public display of immigration law enforcement. Sadly, the “show” appears to have been just that.While nearly 70 suspected illegals were picked up in the raid, most were simply released about five hours later and told to show up at status hearings.Dozens of illegal immigrants arrested, released in hours

US Cracks Down on Businesses Employing Illegal Immigrants

Immigration Crack Down- The fact of the matter is we are looking at organizations that promote the harboring and the hiring of illegal, undocumented workers. We're Looking at them in the same way we look at other criminal organizations. This comes after the largest round-up of illegal aliens at a work site, in US history.

Arrests of illegal aliens up in Western Montana

Feds Warn Companies Using Illegal Workers-The government plans to crack down ever harder on employers who harbor and hire illegal immigrants, pursuing companies that ignore the law so they can exploit cheap labor.

IMMIGRATION RAIDS 042006: Map shows IFCO administrative and criminal arrests; with BC-Immigration

Subject: immigration

The following from a director with SW BELL in Mexico City.

I spent five years working in Mexico.

I worked under a tourist visa for three months and could legally renew it for three more months. After that you were working illegally. I was technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval.

During that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to secure a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country. Barbara's was the same except hers did not permit her to work.

To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized originals (not copies) of my:

1. Birth certificates for Barbara and me.

2. Marriage certificate.

3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation.

4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of graduation.

5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at least one year.

6. A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indicating I had no arrest record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen in good standing."

7. Finally; I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why there was no Mexican citizen with my skills and why my skills were important to Mexico. We called it our "I am the greatest person on earth" letter. It was fun to write.

All of the above were in English that had to be translated into Spanish and be certified as legal translations and our signatures notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on the left side and Spanish on the right.

Once they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours accompanied by a Mexican attorney touring Mexican government office locations and being photographed and fingerprinted at least three times. At each location (and we remember at least four locations) we were instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences. We could not protest any of the government's actions or we would be committing a felony. We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could legally bring in our household goods that were held by US customs in Loredo Texas. This meant we rented furniture in Mexico while awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees involved here that the company paid.

We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates and under contract and compliance with Mexican law.

We were required to get a Mexican drivers license. This was an amazing process. The company arranged for the licensing agency to come to our headquarters location with their photography and finger print equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license, were photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road. Our only instruction was never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back.

We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the number of our FM3 as our ID number. The companies Mexican accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared. I was about twenty legal size pages annually.

The FM 3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after paying more fees.

Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants, tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs.

It was a real adventure and If any of our senators or congressmen went through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico.

The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to keep its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at their White House or government offices but do protest daily in front of the United States Embassy. The US embassy looks like a strongly reinforced fortress and during most protests the Mexican Military surround the block with their men standing shoulder to shoulder in full riot gear to protect the Embassy. These protests are never shown on US or Mexican TV. There is a large public park across the street where they do their protesting. Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in California or Texas.

Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being hard on illegal immigrants.

# 1 INVASION USA- Chertoff downplays Mexican military incursions- Homeland Security chief insists reports of past 10 years 'overblown'

# 2 Nevada senator under pressure in immigration debate-Nevada Senator John Ensign headed for the border Wednesday to get a close up look at security operations. Ensign made the trip under intense pressure from his colleagues to take sides in the immigration debate.

# 3 Dakotas senators respond to Colorado congressman- Two Dakotas Democrats say they won't be bullied by Rep. Tom Tancredo, a Colorado Republican who sent them letters this week asking them to oppose citizenship opportunities for illegal immigrants.Tancredo followed the letters with press releases, publicizing his efforts to pressure Sens. Tim Johnson of South Dakota and Kent Conrad of North Dakota into supporting his conservative position on immigration. In December, Tancredo helped pass a House bill that would impose sanctions on employers who hire illegal workers and would build a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border.Tancredo said in the letters that both Conrad and Johnson are swing voters who could tip the balance on the immigration debate.

# 4 Illegal aliens are disobeying America's laws

# 5 Brentwood (NY) On High Alert- Although the specific content of the threat or the website on which it was posted was unavailable, sources say it was attributed to MS-13, the gang otherwise known as Mara Salvatrucha. There are an estimated 10,000 MS-13 gangs in 33 states nationwide, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigations, which has a task force dedicated to this growing, increasingly violent band of criminals. The gang originates in El Salvador, but members are of various South American national descents.

# 6 Illegal Immigration Study on US Border Counties Show Shocking Statistics - A study by the University of Texas at El Paso’s Institute for Policy and Economic Development looked at US counties that border Mexico for economic and other factors. The researchers grouped all 24 counties along the border that touch Mexico and treated this as a “51st state”. By doing this they could compare against the other states in the United States how the bordering areas function economically.

# 7 Fortenberry puts focus on border security- Border security should be the first priority of immigration reform, Rep. Jeff Fortenberry said Wednesday as he appeared to reject proposals to provide a pathway to legal status for illegal immigrants already living here. Fortenberry said he’d consider “some type of guest worker or temporary worker program” when labor shortages in the United States clearly demonstrate a need.

# 8 INVASION USA - ACLU fails to oust Minutemen 'Misguided, out-of-town youngsters' asked state to evict volunteersThe American Civil Liberties Union failed an attempt to remove volunteers with the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps from Arizona state land. -

# 9 Montezuma’s True Revenge In 3-D - It has been impossible to avoid being blasted with MSM images of protesting immigrants from sea to shining sea over the past few weeks. First we saw unsophisticated, honest, realistic truth as Mexican and other flags were brandished over American flags, which were either burned or placed upside down in disrespect. Then, once liberals saw how damaging such images would be to their usual propaganda victimization tactics, they grabbed the leaders of these mindless spectacles of insolent arrogance and did an extreme makeover, immigration edition.
All of the sudden we see waves of red, white and blue and teary-eyed immigrants expressing their love of this country and the American dream. I expected a few to spontaneously break out in a broken rendition of Ray Charles’s “America” while replacing their tacos and burritos with apple pie.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are witnessing a three-pronged attack on American sovereignty from forces whose true allegiance have never been, and will never be, true American interests and agendas.

# 10 Stopping the Next 12 Million Illegals-Phoenix, AZ.-I attended a Town Hall Meeting featuring Senator John McCain yesterday. There were basically three issues on his mind for the meeting: illegal immigration, Iran, and Iraq. Although Senator McCain's stance on the illegal immigration issue is not a soft one, the crowd seemed to favor a different approach, very much like the email I received this morning. I wonder if this gentleman was at that meeting.... In any case, if you have comments, you may append them to this post by clicking on the comments link, below.

# 11 Letter: Throw the illegal immigrants out

# 12 Capitalists and immigration: The road less traveled

# 13 Immigration and the future-Tens of thousands of Latino high-school students in California have reportedly cut classes in recent days to protest. They say they are entitled to in-state tuition benefits at universities, federal loans, work-study programs, and government-funded health care.

Kerry 'thinking hard' about 2008 run for president

Have you seen this?:

http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf

In 4 short years, by 2010 we are to be the United Country of North America. No southern or northern borders. The CFR and George Soros have spoken. We've been sold out.

This is NOT to be missed!

Rush Translates ChiCom President Hu

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LOL, missed your post last night, it's a new day now!

See the La Voz de Aztlan screed dated April 20, 2006, from the exalted featherhead.

I don't know where to begin here, but I howled at this line:

"Even Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles is now changing his tune because the Jews are threatening him with bringing up more cases involving his pedophile child abusing priests. We do not need organizations that are led by "coconuts" or compromised institutions to defeat our enemy. "

After all this Frist is saying he will push for amnesty

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1619095/posts?page=34#34

I am too angry and better not say anything more right now.

Bump!

That is amazing to read! We had to pay and get permits when we traveled deep into Mexico but I don't even remember the hotels asking to see them anywhere.

Thank you...
Haven't seen that one yet.

Although the group claim no:

"THE COUNCIL TAKES NO INSTITUTIONAL POSITION ON POLICY ISSUES AND HAS NO AFFILIATION WITH THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. ALL STATEMENTS OF FACT AND EXPRESSIONS OF OPINION CONTAINED IN ITS PUBLICATIONS ARE THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE AUTHOR OR AUTHORS."

They appear to be wannabee Bilderbergs and/or the New World Order, part of Bilderbergs Conspiracy, and /or world wide Bohemian Grove[rs], or are in fact the real thing? I sure don't know!

They use excerpts from governmental meetings and statistics, which in all appearances makes them sound like some official body? Names would have to be tied to other groups. I did a document search and found George Soros name not mentioned?

Find below a short copy of the manifesto for the "New World Order."
Scary and troubling...you bet. The very fact that people like this are meeting and plotting bears watching. Because who their discussing, are you and I, our children, and grandchildren!

"A One World Government and one-unit monetary system, under permanent non-elected hereditary oligarchists who self-select from among their numbers in the form of a feudal system as it was in the Middle Ages. In this One World entity, population will be limited by restrictions on the number of children per family, diseases, wars, famines, until 1 billion people who are useful to the ruling class, in areas which will be strictly and clearly defined, remain as the total world population.

There will be no middle class, only rulers and the servants. All laws will be uniform under a legal system of world courts practicing the same unified code of laws, backed up by a One World Government police force and a One World unified military to enforce laws in all former countries where no national boundaries shall exist. The system will be on the basis of a welfare state; those who are obedient and subservient to the One World Government will be rewarded with the means to live; those who are rebellious will simple be starved to death or be declared outlaws, thus a target for anyone who wishes to kill them. Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited."

Hi Potlatch...
I think the difference was in traveling for pleasure, and staying for awhile to work. Requirements of the two countries are definitely different and discriminatory. We're the suckers though!
:o)

The Bilderberger stuff has always scared me, perhaps even more than the terrorists because it 'seems' to be prominent 'sane' people involved in it all.