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All this balderdash about it costing the US billions to rid ourselves of illegals is just that----BS.

There are too many laws being broken and too many ways they can be enforced----by law enforcement and regulatory agencies---as outlined above.

I am not encouraging contact with legislators b/c I believe they are in league with the forces of illegality.

We are on our own, and, fortunately have all the laws we need to get these friggin illegals out of our country, subito.

1 posted on 04/07/2006 3:29:34 PM PDT by Liz
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To: ScreamingFist

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2 posted on 04/07/2006 3:37:40 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Liz

3 posted on 04/07/2006 3:57:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Liz

How about if We the People "invade" the Captiol Building and not let any of the rascals back in again!


4 posted on 04/07/2006 4:05:04 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Liz

Thumbs up, thanks for that info. Maybe someone up SF way ought to look into the Mayor.

"SAN FRANCISCO - Mayor Gavin Newsom said Thursday that The City will not comply with any federal legislation that criminalizes efforts to help illegal immigrants.

The mayor also denounced a bipartisan congressional proposal that would beef up border security and allow as many as 12 million illegal immigrants to gain legal status."

http://www.examiner.com/Top_News-a70996~Mayor__City_would_ignore_legislation_if_it_were_to_pass.html


12 posted on 04/07/2006 8:12:19 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (Fixing leaks: 1. Stop leak 2. Mop up mess. 3. Prevent future leaks.)
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To: Liz

The problem with this is that your countrymen do not agree.
They chose abortion, contraception, and homosexuality.
What makes you think they will assist you in a quixotic
effort 20 years too late when they couldn't even get their reproductive organs in the right hole?

Remember that economic power equals military power.
India and China have 1 billion people. We have 300 million. Now that knowledge can be transmitted at the click of a button we no longer have the advantage.
If you care about America you will try to get as many skilled
people in as possible before the jig is up. And by "jig", I mean the dollar hegemony. And this is the surprising fact: It is China that is exacerbating the immigration problem.
If they wouldn't keep buying our treasuries there would not be such large amounts of mortgage debt in America chasing labor to pay for our fancy restaurants and landscaping etc.

When China turns off the money spigot the immigration will stop too.


14 posted on 04/07/2006 8:41:09 PM PDT by urluquai (When China turns off the money spigot the immigration will stop too.)
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To: Liz
"I am not encouraging contact with legislators b/c I believe they are in league with the forces of illegality."

We'd better stay on top of them unless you want to see something like amnesty or our immigration laws liberalized beyond repair.

15 posted on 04/08/2006 1:57:13 AM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: Liz

IMHO, this immigration issue defines which amongst us really ARE American ....especially those inside the beltway, for whom this is such a "challenging", "nuanced", and "complex" issue.


20 posted on 04/08/2006 5:29:39 AM PDT by mo
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To: Liz

TMI. Bump for later. It's too early!


25 posted on 04/08/2006 6:05:53 AM PDT by manwiththehands (I will remember in November.)
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To: Liz

Thank you, Liz :)


29 posted on 04/08/2006 7:47:01 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Liz
Solve this dilemma first: get the policing authorities, including the military, to put their country over and above their immediate loyalty to their superiors so they too favor the removal of the public scoundrels at all levels.
38 posted on 04/08/2006 9:15:35 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Liz
The City & County of San Francisco is now a wholly owned leftist dictatorship - - dictators choose which laws will be obeyed/enforced.

There is an effective grassroots way to fight back - $$$ economic - anyone belonging to any organization, business, or simply planning a family vacation, must send a letter to the Chamber of Commerce of any city/county/state that orders law enforcement to ignore immigration enforcement laws stating your family/ group / business / organization will take its convention elsewhere.

Boycott cities/counties who do not enforce immigration laws and let their Chambers of Commerce, the hotels, tourism bureaus and dictators know the reason.

Believe me tourism is still a huge money maker in SF and the hotel/tourism industry clamps down on mayors/city councils / supervisors when that industry is negatively effected. [The always on strike illegal hotel workers will also lose jobs if no one is staying at their hotels.]
41 posted on 04/08/2006 9:54:02 AM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Liz
The Senate, House and White House are seriously confused about what is at issue and what is at stake here.

The issue of a guest worker program is completely separate from the issue of illegal aliens.

We have a guest worker program. It may need to be reformed but illegal aliens are those who have not applied to be guest workers. There are 11 million of them. (or more) The only thing needing reform now concerns illegal aliens and border security. We need to enforce the existing laws respecting the presence and employment of illegal aliens and border security.

Border security is the number one problem in this debate. The flood of illegal aliens is a major factor in relation to our lack of border security but it is only one factor. There is also a matter of national security in a time of war and in an age when terrorists have set their sights on inflicting mass destruction on our society.

After the issues of border security and millions of illegal foreign nationals on our soil the matter of guest workers is very small. Until the first two problems are thoroughly and firmly addressed the guest worker issue should not even be discussed.

The President the Senate and the House need to get that message with unambiguous resolve.

Border security! No employment for illegal aliens!

Immigration and a guest worker program are separate issues from the above.

Now is the time to put the pressure on!

47 posted on 04/08/2006 2:03:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: Liz
[ We are on our own, and, fortunately have all the laws we need to get these friggin illegals out of our country, subito. ]

Well the States and local governments could pass codes that make housing illegals illegal.. since its NOW illegal to be illegal.. Its legal to restrict illegals or more the ones that parasitize the parasites.. NOW..

Yes, Building Codes that restrict illegal aliens in housing.. Where would they live legally?.. Property Managers would have to be careful or be fined and or shut down.. also real estate sellers and buyers Agents and Title companies would be effected.. also home inspectors..

Wouldn't get rid of them all but would made it much harder for them to LIVE.. Illegal aliens are as much a threat to the neigborhood as fire is.. Like smoke alarms are mandated in most areas.. Housing illegal aliens could and should be illegal.. for they are already illegal.. Housing renegades from the law is probably already illegal in some places.. its just no BUILDING NO CODE has been passed to demand the owners of rented property even to know who the renters are..

If NOTHING the ACLU suit that would result would expose the ACLU and all the politicians against it.. For the building code would be ONLY following the present law.. For illegal aliens are illegal NOW.. Illegal for what?.. Illegal to be walking around, working, and literally anything an illegal does while in the state of being illegal.. Did I say illegal enough?.. maybe NOT..

50 posted on 04/08/2006 2:45:31 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Liz

Get 'em out (invaders/aiders) bump.


52 posted on 04/08/2006 4:37:46 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (Fixing leaks: 1. Stop leak 2. Mop up mess. 3. Prevent future leaks.)
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To: All

REFERENCE:

Simpson-Mazzoli Act
http://www.answers.com/topic/immigration-reform-and-control-act-of-1986?method=8

Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 The Immigration Reform and Control Act ('Simpson-Mazzoli Act, IRCA, Pub. L. 99-603, Nov. 6, 1986, 100 Stat. 3359) is an American law that was created in order to stop illegal immigration from Mexico, which was seen as a threat to the economy.

The law criminalized the act of knowingly hiring an undocumented worker and established financial and other penalties for those employing illegal aliens, because it was thought that not as many people would be attracted to enter the U.S. illegally if the prospects for employment were low.

A one-year amnesty program for illegal aliens who had already worked and lived in the U.S. since January 1982 was established. Those eligible could apply for regularization of status and eventually full citizenship.

The law also mandated the intensification of Border Patrol activities including the auditing of employer I-9 forms.


57 posted on 04/09/2006 10:22:41 AM PDT by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: EGPWS

And here-----ways to proceed.


73 posted on 04/10/2006 6:37:50 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Ways to proceed here.


74 posted on 04/10/2006 6:39:34 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: David M. Brooks

Ways to proceed here.


75 posted on 04/10/2006 6:40:50 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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