Please give it a rest with everything somehow relating to abortions.
It makes the discussion predictable and trite.
~ Blue Jays ~
Posted on 04/06/2006 10:34:20 AM PDT by areafiftyone
B>Former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani has described seeing the horror of the 9/11 attacks on the city's twin towers.
He told the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui that he was unwilling to believe people were jumping from the buildings until he saw it with his own eyes.
The jury has to decide whether the self-confessed al-Qaeda member should be executed. Mr Giuliani is testifying for the prosecution.
The court will also hear from relatives of some of those killed in the attacks.
Mr Giuliani told the jury the image of two people jumping together from the World Trade Center, holding hands, stuck with him every day, the Associated Press news agency reported.
Describing the moment he saw people falling, he said: "I froze. I realised that in a couple of seconds, it switched my thinking and emotions. I said 'We're in uncharted territory'."
The human and emotional costs of the attacks, when hijacked planes were deliberately flown into New York's twin towers and the Pentagon, are taking centre stage at the trial.
On Monday, jurors said Moussaoui could face the death penalty. He is the only man to be charged in the US in connection with the 9/11 attacks.
The 37-year-old French citizen has pleaded guilty to six counts of conspiracy to attack the US.
During Mr Giuliani's testimony, the jury was played video clips of people jumping from the twin towers, the AFP news agency reported.
Close-up shots of the planes crashing into the buildings were also shown to the court.
Cockpit tape
Prosecutors are also said to be planning to read out the names of the 2,972 victims of the attacks, and show their pictures in court.
Before Mr Giuliani took the stand, prosecutor Robert Spencer told jurors they would hear from families of the victims.
He said that evidence "will be all you need in this case to sentence the defendant to death", AFP reported.
But defence lawyer Gerald Zerkin urged the jury to remain open to "the possibility of a sentence other than death", according to the Associated Press agency.
On Wednesday, Judge Leonie Brinkema ruled that a cockpit recording from the hijacked airliner that crashed in Pennsylvania could be played in the courtroom.
It is unclear whether the tape - which has so far only been played to victims' relatives - will be publicly released.
The judge has given relatives of the Flight 93 victims until Tuesday to request the audio be kept from the general public.
But she has said that if there were no objections, the recording will be released to the public the day after it is submitted as evidence.
Prosecutors want to use the recording to show the jury how passengers were treated by 9/11 hijackers.
The defence is expected to argue that Moussaoui suffers from mental illness and had a difficult childhood.
Well said, seOhio.
Welcome to the room Sissy.
Where does it say that I may not address you if your in this chat room?
Where does it say that a subject like abortion is somehow off limits to certain people present and not others? Huh?
It appears that you and someone named Reddy have suddenly appeared and are posing as "thought referees".
Seems like the adults here are capable of getting along fine with out "thought police".
But don't let me put words in your mouth.
The poor young man.
Fry him.
Neither are appropriate. This is a thread about testimony regarding one of the most traumatic events in our history - by the then Mayor of the city that was central to the event. It is not a referendum on that mayor.
>>But don't let me put words in your mouth.<<
Believe me, I won't.
The country still needs Pres Bush and Rudy.
Just out of curriosity, what sort of information was found on his computer, once they decided it would be OK to look at it.. (That is after 9-11 and the horse had long ago left the barn).
Rudy, the pro-abort, pro-gay, pro-ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, will milk 9/11 until the day he dies, probably in the bed of his mistress...
Please give it a rest with everything somehow relating to abortions.
It makes the discussion predictable and trite.
~ Blue Jays ~
"you don't own this forum".
What a nice to say to a perfect stranger.
I'm blushing.
Some people just light up a room when they enter!
This thread is about a multitude of items and yours is the first I've heard of any sort of subject restriction in all the years I've been a member.
Thanks for the "help".
I have no clue what you are talking about.
"This thread is about a multitude of items and yours is the first I've heard of any sort of subject restriction in all the years I've been a member."
Please copy where I promoted subject restriction on this thread.
"Abortion" is an odd, out of the blue subject.
No one had mentioned any aspect of "abortion" on this thread.
"Abortion" as a subject appears as an unwholesome "mess" in the church "collection basket".
What's that doing here?
Is there perhaps an obsessive -compulsive mental patient loose in the room?
Actually, you might want to read post #3 above. I think that is where it all started.
Immigration politics have similarly harmed New York. Former mayor Rudolph Giuliani sued all the way up to the Supreme Court to defend the city’s sanctuary policy against a 1996 federal law decreeing that cities could not prohibit their employees from cooperating with the INS. Oh yeah? said Giuliani; just watch me. The INS, he claimed, with what turned out to be grotesque irony, only aims to “terrorize people.” Though he lost in court, he remained defiant to the end. On September 5, 2001, his handpicked charter-revision committee ruled that New York could still require that its employees keep immigration information confidential to preserve trust between immigrants and government. Six days later, several visa-overstayers participated in the most devastating attack on the city and the country in history.
Lines similar to the one illustrated above allow thread participants to see to which post the person is replying. You can also click on the referenced number (shown in red) to take you directly to that post to refresh one's memory. I use that feature all the time because it's the only way to remember exactly what someone said several pages earlier. Hope that helps.
~ Blue Jays ~
I am not responsible for running around FR "admonishing" others. I merely reacted to a single post I happened to see here, and expressed my opinion. Don't like it? Too bad. Say your peace then take your posse and go bug someone else.
Upside::: My wife woke me up when Fox reported the first hit... I got out of the rack and grabbed a cuppa joe and watched in curiousity thinking what kinda of nimrod pilot would crash into the WTC...
She was getting ready to dash off to work as we both stared numbly at the screen as the 2nd jet crashed into the other tower... I hit the record button on the vcr... screaming at the tube "Accident my ass! This is WAR!!!" We both grabbed onto each other and tears of shock, anger, and an emotion I hadn't felt since engaging the enemy on the battlefield in Viet Nam...
The VCR was left recording for hours and hours, straight through, tape after tape...
The downside:::
Those tapes are in my summer house, which I won't go to for a few weeks to prepare for the move... I will find those tapes (I have literally thousands of them as recording movies has been a pet project for the past 15 years, of so), and I can be persuaded to dub you a copy of the first day of the War...
Freepmail me...
JD
Thank you for the presence of mind to keep a clear perspective,Kathy.
"The country still needs Pres Bush and Rudy."
And we need each other in this dire passage of our history...this war is far from over...and the enemy is unrelenting.
Differences of opinion on other issues need not be abandoned or even put aside. But while our very lives ,our homeland and our Way of Life is under siege, we need unity to preserve these precious freedoms and priviledges.
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