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Congress Nears Deal on Illegal Immigrants (breaking on cable networks)
AP/Yahoo News ^ | 4-6-06 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 04/06/2006 8:33:43 AM PDT by STARWISE

WASHINGTON - In a last stab at compromise, Senate Republicans and Democrats reported progress Thursday toward agreement on legislation opening the way to legal status and eventual citizenship for many of the 11 million immigrants now in the U.S. illegally.

"There's been tremendous progress overnight," said Sen. Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record) of Nevada, the Democratic leader, while Majority Leader Bill Frist also expressed optimism that a long-sought compromise might be at hand.

There was no immediate reaction from President Bush, who has made immigration legislation a key priority.

The developments occurred after Frist unveiled a new bill late Wednesday night on the subject as the Senate headed into a test vote on the most sweeping immigration bill in two decades.

In general, the legislation would provide for enhanced border security, regulate the flow of future immigrants into the United States and settle the legal fate of the estimated 11 million men, women and children already in the country.

It was the fate of the illegal immigrant population that proved hardest to legislate, and it has left the Senate on the verge of gridlock for days.

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Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., as well as other key senators met before the vote to review terms of a proposed compromise.

In general, it would require illegal immigrants who have been in the United States between two years and five years to return to their home country briefly, then re-enter as temporary workers. They could then begin a process of seeking citizenship.

Illegal immigrants here longer than five years would not be required to return home; those in the country less than two years would be required to leave without assurances of returning, and take their place in line with others seeking entry papers.

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KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; borderlist; buchananwasright; compromise; congress; guestworker; idiotsonparade; immigration; senatetraitors; soldout; tancredo4president; theswimmer; traitors; trashingamerica; treason
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To: Soul Seeker
I appreciate your post. Someone could be sincerely wrong, but that does not mean that individual is an elitist. Such characterizations are not helpful to this or any other debate for that matter. Nor do I think it is useful to suggest that this is a litmus test for being a conservative. There are many different varieties of conservatism: from conservative libertarians to Christian conservatives.

While a conservative would generally favor attempts to secure the border, it would be wrong to say that a conservative has to come down one way or another on the issue of guest workers or illegal alien deportation. T

781 posted on 04/06/2006 11:23:30 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: clawrence3
Yes, much better.
782 posted on 04/06/2006 11:23:33 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: stylin19a
I was surprised by the breaking news and

ED

what I heard. What's it smell like?

783 posted on 04/06/2006 11:23:38 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: Roccus; JeffAtlanta

Throw a rock into a pack of dogs; 95% are spotted, 3% are solid white, 3% of the white are also short-eared.

What's your chance of hitting a short-eared white one?

Solutions are usually based on what would curtail the majority of infractions.


784 posted on 04/06/2006 11:23:47 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Actually, someone above indeed said to vote for Dems since they could not be any worse that GOP on immigration.


785 posted on 04/06/2006 11:23:48 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham; Bikers4Bush
Let's assume you are b4b's favorite conservative candidate for Dewines seat. He elects you and sends you to DC.

Then you decide to support a bill that b4b opposes, for whatever reason. How does he convince you to oppose that bill?

786 posted on 04/06/2006 11:23:58 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: bill1952
OP: There are other ways to make our voices heard to our party without putting Dems in power. Bill1952: good post. Thanks. What are these "other ways" exactly?
787 posted on 04/06/2006 11:24:38 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: MEGoody

Oops, MEGoody, forgot to ping you on this!


788 posted on 04/06/2006 11:24:42 AM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: Moose4
Time to give third parties a chance such as Libertarian. Democrats should throw their votes to parties like the Green. In my opinion, it seems the two party system we have only encourages us to vote for the lesser of two evils.

Well...a lot of us here have been screaming to the skies for weeks and weeks now about what'll happen if Congress sells us out on immigration issues. It looks like it's going to happen, so we have some hard decisions to make coming into November. Do we risk handing seats to Democrats to teach our Republican representatives a lesson not to ignore the will of the people on immigration?

I've got a lot of thinking to do between now and Election Day.

}:-)4

789 posted on 04/06/2006 11:24:46 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: clawrence3

7 MILLION, MINIMUM, just for starters! My goodness, you can forEVER kiss off this country with just *5 million* situated in Florida, Arizona, New Mexico and Ohio (and on and on!)!

Let the Vote pandering RAGE ON!


790 posted on 04/06/2006 11:25:11 AM PDT by samcgwire (Hey, I VOTED for President "Better than Kerry"!)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Are you being sarcastic? If not, we can finally agree on something. I still want to know how you can think Americans who eat vegetables are "cretins" though.


791 posted on 04/06/2006 11:25:15 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Roccus

"OK, so we don't worry about anyone but mexicans."

It's called triage.


792 posted on 04/06/2006 11:25:19 AM PDT by Rebelbase (The last time I was this angry with a President was when Slick was in office.)
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To: Serenissima Venezia
Bump.

This is that issue for me as well.

I could envision myself voting for Alan Simpson or Pete Wilson-in spite of my pro-life principles-but if any open borders, illegal immigration advocate thinks he's getting my vote in the future he/she is sorely mistaken.

793 posted on 04/06/2006 11:25:40 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: texaslil

And how many elderly/ill will die on those longer drives to the hospitals?


794 posted on 04/06/2006 11:25:50 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: bill1952
>"There are other ways to make our voices heard to our party without putting Dems in power.

good post. Thanks."

What would lead you to believe the Dems are not in power?
795 posted on 04/06/2006 11:25:59 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: azhenfud

Why just throw a rock?
I gotta go, BBL


796 posted on 04/06/2006 11:26:00 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Bikers4Bush
Harry Reid isn't running against DeWine in Ohio.

A win for the democrat there is a big help to Harry, Hillary, etal.


797 posted on 04/06/2006 11:26:35 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: clawrence3
That's not what I implied, not that I would expect you to understand the context of my statement, or who I was referring to.
798 posted on 04/06/2006 11:26:39 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: sam_paine

By making sure that there's another conservative capable of taking his place should he stray to far.

On the contrary, my strategy for now and the future is to root out and defeat the RINO's and support the conservatives.

No, I consider getting DeWine out of office so we can focus on getting a conservative in there a win.

We will never win if we allow the RINO's to stay. If there's nothing else that should prove that to you having specter re-elected in 2004 should. He barely survived a primary challenge and yet went right back to being the RINO little weasel he is. Had he been beaten by his much more conservative challenger we'd be in a hell of a lot better shape then we are today.


So please don't try and convince me of the horrors we face should RINO's be thrown out. Nothing could possibly be worse that having that sniveling pos doing his utmost to screw real Americans.


799 posted on 04/06/2006 11:26:39 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: sam_paine

By making sure that there's another conservative capable of taking his place should he stray to far.

On the contrary, my strategy for now and the future is to root out and defeat the RINO's and support the conservatives.

No, I consider getting DeWine out of office so we can focus on getting a conservative in there a win.

We will never win if we allow the RINO's to stay. If there's nothing else that should prove that to you having specter re-elected in 2004 should. He barely survived a primary challenge and yet went right back to being the RINO little weasel he is. Had he been beaten by his much more conservative challenger we'd be in a hell of a lot better shape then we are today.


So please don't try and convince me of the horrors we face should RINO's be thrown out. Nothing could possibly be worse that having that sniveling pos doing his utmost to screw real Americans.


800 posted on 04/06/2006 11:26:39 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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