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Congress Nears Deal on Illegal Immigrants (breaking on cable networks)
AP/Yahoo News ^ | 4-6-06 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 04/06/2006 8:33:43 AM PDT by STARWISE

WASHINGTON - In a last stab at compromise, Senate Republicans and Democrats reported progress Thursday toward agreement on legislation opening the way to legal status and eventual citizenship for many of the 11 million immigrants now in the U.S. illegally.

"There's been tremendous progress overnight," said Sen. Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record) of Nevada, the Democratic leader, while Majority Leader Bill Frist also expressed optimism that a long-sought compromise might be at hand.

There was no immediate reaction from President Bush, who has made immigration legislation a key priority.

The developments occurred after Frist unveiled a new bill late Wednesday night on the subject as the Senate headed into a test vote on the most sweeping immigration bill in two decades.

In general, the legislation would provide for enhanced border security, regulate the flow of future immigrants into the United States and settle the legal fate of the estimated 11 million men, women and children already in the country.

It was the fate of the illegal immigrant population that proved hardest to legislate, and it has left the Senate on the verge of gridlock for days.

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Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., as well as other key senators met before the vote to review terms of a proposed compromise.

In general, it would require illegal immigrants who have been in the United States between two years and five years to return to their home country briefly, then re-enter as temporary workers. They could then begin a process of seeking citizenship.

Illegal immigrants here longer than five years would not be required to return home; those in the country less than two years would be required to leave without assurances of returning, and take their place in line with others seeking entry papers.

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KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; borderlist; buchananwasright; compromise; congress; guestworker; idiotsonparade; immigration; senatetraitors; soldout; tancredo4president; theswimmer; traitors; trashingamerica; treason
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
If you want to have a deterrent to bad behavior, your deterrent needs to be credible. The Ruskies deterred their behavior because they thought Reagan would nuke 'em. If illegals hear someone in the US say that we were going to arrest all illegals they would laugh it off.

Yet, amazingly, the federal government manages to deduct 30% from millions of law abiding hard working American's paychecks every week.

421 posted on 04/06/2006 9:59:02 AM PDT by skeeter (eat mo' pie)
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To: EternalVigilance
How many tens of millions more illegal aliens will this amnesty draw across our borders?

I am sure they are packing right now. The funny thing is that they will not really secure the borders. It will be just like it always has been. I wonder if this bill includes anything about learning English?

Oh well, you win some, you lose some. But I will remember come November.

422 posted on 04/06/2006 9:59:16 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: 4integrity
God help our country.

Amen.

423 posted on 04/06/2006 9:59:17 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: reagandemo

No. Spoken like a true idiot. If a person convicted of a crime is placed on probation, they are given a list of conditions that they have to follow. If they screw up or do not meet with their Probation Officer, they go back into jail. Counties have limited funds. No one wants to pay to build larger jails. How would you manage the problem, Einstein? You just want to whine. Go ahead. No one cares.


424 posted on 04/06/2006 9:59:25 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
I want to solve the problem of illegals too and I know that calls for deportation alone will not get you the results that we want and amounts to nothing more than political posturing.

We need to cut off the inflow first. These amnesty bills make it harder, not easier, to do that.

425 posted on 04/06/2006 9:59:25 AM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: 4integrity

"I just received a letter from the Selous Foundation (never heard of them before) re the Law of the Sea Treaty. They're asking for signatures on Emergency Sovereignty Petition To the President to reject 'LOST'. At least a year ago, I wrote and called Hatch (who I thought was primary sponsor) and other Senators to reject this. Now appears Sen. Lugar is sponsor. What in the world is wrong with these Senators?? Why is it they don't realize they were sent to Washington to represent the citizens of the United States of America.....not to push their own agendas?! God help our country."

The majority of the D.C. political class are complete whores.


426 posted on 04/06/2006 9:59:29 AM PDT by samcgwire (Hey, I VOTED for President "Better than Kerry"!)
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To: JeffAtlanta

I don't eat lettuce ;)


427 posted on 04/06/2006 9:59:45 AM PDT by sheana
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To: texaslil
....They have destroyed our business since we can't compete with construction companies who get hundreds of employees at 5-7 dollars an hour. These companies don't have to pay workmen comp. or anything else. We're legal and our records are inspected, but if these people get in trouble, they just pop over the border 'till the heat's off. They then reenter with different names.

Hear you loud and strong. Do not understand if the new bill would address these concerns.

428 posted on 04/06/2006 9:59:45 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: teawithmisswilliams

Exactly right on every point! Atta-FReeper!


429 posted on 04/06/2006 10:00:15 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: STARWISE

But we have NO CLUE what exactly is in it...and NO ONE has come out on the Senate floor and told us.

This is a bunch of POLITICAL GAME PLAYING....and all they really want to do is leave for their 2 week vacation, and then come back and forget it ever happened.


430 posted on 04/06/2006 10:00:24 AM PDT by Txsleuth (~~~~~~FREEPATHON TIME~~~~~~)
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To: drypowder
If they're here illegally how is anyone going to know how long they've been here? Oh, just trust their word, they won't lie. Ha!

Make them pay $10,000 of back taxes for every year they claim.

It's still a bad idea though.

431 posted on 04/06/2006 10:00:31 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: tabsternager

"It own't be enforced, just as the laws already on the books are not enforced."
Precisely. This is a just of way of both branches of governments saying, "Enforcement of US immigration law will remain 'business as usual'".

To those of you apologists for them, when you say,
"Who's going to locate 11 million . .how are you going to remove them, etc. etc."
This amnesty program looks even more complicated than deportation: how are you going to find them all? How are you going to tell which have been breaking our laws for 5 years, rather than just two? How are you going to ensure that the less experienced Mexican criminals return to Mexico, to `touch base' before returning, and pay their "fines" . . and so forth and so on.
Huh Andy? Huh, huh, huh?


432 posted on 04/06/2006 10:00:43 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: WatchingInAmazement
Locate them? They're out in our streets with no permits marching, demanding "their rights". They're hanging on street corners in every city in the country. They're lined up at welfare offices and the jails are full of them.

They're also in the kitchens of the restaurants you eat at, in the warehouses of the stores you shop at, in the factories that slice up the meat you buy at the grocery store, and up on the rooftops of houses under construction. Among other places. I keep seeing the 12 million illegals number everywhere, but what I'm having a harder time determining is the number that are employed. If they all got thrown on buses tomorrow, what exactly would be te impact on our lives? How many businesses would shut down? How many restaurants would go out of business overnight?
433 posted on 04/06/2006 10:00:56 AM PDT by kenboy
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To: VU4G10

Nice try, but it won't do any good.
Our younger folks and children are in for a very rough time in the not too distant future.
For once I'm glad I'm old and will probably not be here when the shooting starts.


434 posted on 04/06/2006 10:00:56 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
You can't and you know it.

Uhh, yeah, we can, with enough time. We can also imprison employers that hire illegals.
435 posted on 04/06/2006 10:01:12 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Ignorance of the 10th Amendment should disqualify a person from holding office or being a teacher)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Living on the border, knowing illegals, and speaking Spanish doesn't exactly make you an expert on deportation. In fact, the former has nothing to do with the latter.

Why don't you come up with suggestions, instead of ignoring the ones you given?


436 posted on 04/06/2006 10:01:17 AM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Living on the border, knowing illegals, and speaking Spanish doesn't exactly make you an expert on deportation. In fact, the former has nothing to do with the latter.

Why don't you come up with suggestions, instead of ignoring the ones you given?


437 posted on 04/06/2006 10:01:18 AM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

"My wife and I speak Spanish and used to know a few illegals."

And did you turn them in??


438 posted on 04/06/2006 10:01:23 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
No. Spoken like a true idiot. If a person convicted of a crime is placed on probation, they are given a list of conditions that they have to follow. If they screw up or do not meet with their Probation Officer, they go back into jail. Counties have limited funds. No one wants to pay to build larger jails. How would you manage the problem, Einstein? You just want to whine. Go ahead. No one cares.

But counsellor!? You told us we couldn't find them!!

439 posted on 04/06/2006 10:01:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: Serenissima Venezia

President "Give me a North American Union - like the one over in Europe!" was too long.


440 posted on 04/06/2006 10:01:35 AM PDT by samcgwire (Hey, I VOTED for President "Better than Kerry"!)
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