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Congress Nears Deal on Illegal Immigrants (breaking on cable networks)
AP/Yahoo News ^ | 4-6-06 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 04/06/2006 8:33:43 AM PDT by STARWISE

WASHINGTON - In a last stab at compromise, Senate Republicans and Democrats reported progress Thursday toward agreement on legislation opening the way to legal status and eventual citizenship for many of the 11 million immigrants now in the U.S. illegally.

"There's been tremendous progress overnight," said Sen. Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record) of Nevada, the Democratic leader, while Majority Leader Bill Frist also expressed optimism that a long-sought compromise might be at hand.

There was no immediate reaction from President Bush, who has made immigration legislation a key priority.

The developments occurred after Frist unveiled a new bill late Wednesday night on the subject as the Senate headed into a test vote on the most sweeping immigration bill in two decades.

In general, the legislation would provide for enhanced border security, regulate the flow of future immigrants into the United States and settle the legal fate of the estimated 11 million men, women and children already in the country.

It was the fate of the illegal immigrant population that proved hardest to legislate, and it has left the Senate on the verge of gridlock for days.

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Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., as well as other key senators met before the vote to review terms of a proposed compromise.

In general, it would require illegal immigrants who have been in the United States between two years and five years to return to their home country briefly, then re-enter as temporary workers. They could then begin a process of seeking citizenship.

Illegal immigrants here longer than five years would not be required to return home; those in the country less than two years would be required to leave without assurances of returning, and take their place in line with others seeking entry papers.

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KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; borderlist; buchananwasright; compromise; congress; guestworker; idiotsonparade; immigration; senatetraitors; soldout; tancredo4president; theswimmer; traitors; trashingamerica; treason
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
Brilliant. The dissolution of the GOP will definitely cause the Democrats heavy losses in our American TWO PARTY system. "Hold muh beer while I cut my nose off to spite my face".

An excellent criticism to be directed at the sell-outs in the White House and Congress. Why destroy their party over something that such a large majority of the American people disagree with them over?

361 posted on 04/06/2006 9:43:23 AM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: Reagan Man
Relax, this is far from over. Cloture on the Spector bill just failed in the Senate, a filibuster is around the corner.

Is it not disturbing that the GOP are having to resort to a filibuster when they control the Senate?

362 posted on 04/06/2006 9:43:32 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Serenissima Venezia

Agreed, time to clean house.


363 posted on 04/06/2006 9:44:11 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: STARWISE
I need an Idiot's Guide to what Federal Laws are Enforced and Ignored. To hear John McCain explain: "Heh! they are here now and we have to deal with that fact". As I recall, John McCain has been a Senator for a long time. He probably voted for the Reagan Amnesty bill. Why was the Amnesty section of that bill enacted but the enforcement section not ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
364 posted on 04/06/2006 9:44:57 AM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
You want to have an effective deportation program and you have no idea of how to locate the illegals you want to deport.

Here's a few. Have at 'em...

Plenty more where those came from.

There's no problem finding them.

The problem is finding the political will to do something about them.

365 posted on 04/06/2006 9:45:42 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: samcgwire
I voted for President "Better than Kerry" not knowing that he not only wanted to keep flooding America, but that he wanted to fold us into a North American Union. I did not know then that he was a complete sellout and what his aims were. I thought it was just stupid "compassionate" Conservativism, however, I better understand what I'm dealing with now, on many, many fronts.

You and me both.

President "Better than Kerry" - I like that. Describes my feelings on the matter very well.

366 posted on 04/06/2006 9:45:44 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Rebelbase
Don't like it? You get Hillary.

Sometimes you have to take one step back to take 10 steps forward. We took one step back in 1976 when Jimmy Carter was elected but it paved the way to take 100 steps forward in 1980 with Reagan.

If Ford had won in 1976, that whole wing of the Republican party would have continued for decades.

367 posted on 04/06/2006 9:46:30 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: nicmarlo

Thank you for the link! Message sent.


368 posted on 04/06/2006 9:47:15 AM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: teawithmisswilliams
If any illegal violates any (other) law, he's deported. Up to and including traffic laws.

Great. Either every American has to register with local police (as in that bastion of freedom known as Russia), or congress legislates a national clearinghouse and task force for every municipal code in the US. Tell you what, you go experience it firsthand in europe (I have) for 3 or 4 years; then get back with me.

369 posted on 04/06/2006 9:47:18 AM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
It also looks like the hardcore malcontents are out to cripple the service, agriculture, and real estate sectors of our economy.

Aside from the minor point that we "malcontents" want our laws enforced and our borders secure, are you seriously arguing that low-wage, illiterate non-English-speaking illegals are a net benefit to the United States? Can you seriously argue that the costs of illegals, including healthcare, education, and crime, are outweighed by the benefits that a business receives from using illegals to keep down its costs?

370 posted on 04/06/2006 9:47:26 AM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: Fudd Fan

Absolutely!! We cannot be deterred by all this pseudo comity to take our eyes off the ball: control of the WH and Congress ... period! They're all just rehearsing their congratulatory ownership of this issue for the press/photo ops and election babble.


371 posted on 04/06/2006 9:47:30 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: bill1952
What I said is that you will not hurt them, period.

Now you may not believe that there's no real difference between the two parties, but it follows inevitably from what you're saying. If it doesn't hurt the Republican politicians to lose, if they really don't care whether they win or lose, then they really don't care about what it is they're supposedly fighting for. It means that their real interest, as politicians, is to increase the power of the political class - nothing else.

372 posted on 04/06/2006 9:47:36 AM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas; EternalVigilance

>how would you locate...

LOL! Look at them.

Want to wager that I can find over a hundred a day just by doing that very thing?
Hell, I'll bet that I could nail a thousand in no time flat.


373 posted on 04/06/2006 9:47:37 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: VU4G10

Knock off the spamming.


374 posted on 04/06/2006 9:47:37 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: STARWISE
Illegal immigrants here longer than five years would not be required to return home; those in the country less than two years would be required to leave without assurances of returning, and take their place in line with others seeking entry papers.

If they are illegal "undocumented workers" how in the world will you know how long they have been in this country?

What a stupid compromise. The illegals are already creating fake documents that somehow prove they've been here for 5 years or more.

Amnesty...plain and simple. Hope the Pubs can handle the hit in 2006.

375 posted on 04/06/2006 9:47:49 AM PDT by hattend (Grow your own fruits and vegetables...help to put an illegal out of work.)
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To: STARWISE
Go Amnesty, young man, Go Amnesty!

AP/Greg Campbell

376 posted on 04/06/2006 9:48:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Have you hugged an illegal alien today?)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
..."how would you deport 20 million people"?..

With fixed bayonets. Cut off the free welfare, education, and medical care and they'll likely leave on their own.

377 posted on 04/06/2006 9:48:04 AM PDT by meyer (Dems are stuck on stupid. Al Gore invented stupid.)
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To: STARWISE

And how in the hell do ILLEGAL ALIENS prove when they entered the country ILLEGALLY? Can you imagine the discussion when the illegal is apprehended?

"When did you enter the country Sir?

20 years ago.

Ok, you can stay."

Is it just me, or is the entire capital infested with IDIOTS?


378 posted on 04/06/2006 9:48:09 AM PDT by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: Admin Moderator

No problem


379 posted on 04/06/2006 9:48:16 AM PDT by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: STARWISE
If this compromise (which, I believe , was put together by Hagel/Menendez) survives the Senate vote it will be killed in conference.

Another scenario is Frist's Bill which Reid would most likely filibuster.

I would think any bill that lands on Bush's desk containing amnesty of any sort he would use the veto pen for the first time. Here's why. Bush could say "here, I vetoed a bill containing amnesty" and would be seen as a man of his word thus elevating his stature.

The American taxpayer is the big loser here.

380 posted on 04/06/2006 9:48:20 AM PDT by afnamvet (Enforcement First!)
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