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C5 crashes near Dover AFB
ABC News | 04/03/2006

Posted on 04/03/2006 5:10:20 AM PDT by Trust but Verify

No details per ABC radio


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: c5; doverafb; planecrash; usaf
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To: Blueflag

Fully loaded, that's about right. About double that in "ferry range" empty.


241 posted on 04/03/2006 12:09:04 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: SlowBoat407

When we were lkiving near Ramstein Air Base. these birds flew through our attics every day--or so it seemed ;-)


242 posted on 04/03/2006 12:11:21 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: NormsRevenge; Orca

Had to step out..There are two bunk rooms. Each room has three beds, one on each side as you walk in and one across the back wall above the foot of the other two. Each one has a restraining belt and an oxygen mask nearby.


243 posted on 04/03/2006 12:49:21 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: puppypusher

The C-17 can carry an Abrams.


244 posted on 04/03/2006 12:54:23 PM PDT by Blue Scourge (C-17, anywhere, anything, anytime.)
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To: BulletBobCo; Orca

Thanks and Thanks!

At low speed , how is there performance, handling-wise? They don't handle like a fighter but I would think depending on conditions, they could be a bit sluggish at lower speeds,, 747-ish? maybe


245 posted on 04/03/2006 12:55:32 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Have you hugged an illegal alien today?)
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To: Blueflag

Max fuel load when we flew back in the late 80s was 222,500 pounds. At take off power, we burned 12,000 pounds per hour per engine. At cruise we burned about 4000 pounds per hour per engine. WE cruised at mach .77. At that speed each engine burned about 1 quart of fuel per second. So we were burning about 5 gallons per mile.

I have a few photos on my home page.


246 posted on 04/03/2006 12:56:08 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Fred Hayek
Yep...111's were right up there in the noise department. However...the loudest jet I ever heard was at Miramar NAS in the late 80's. Some new kind of F14 (A+ or D?) was being tested and it flew through. It made my spine shiver.
247 posted on 04/03/2006 1:06:54 PM PDT by TankerKC (Pull your head out.)
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To: all4one
The engine failure may have been the result of birds being sucked into the engines, a known cause of engine failure, a spokeswoman a spokesperson for the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the Pentagon said.

If they really got this quote from a JCS spokesperson, then it is pure speculation.

Of course, it could very well be true.

248 posted on 04/03/2006 1:12:42 PM PDT by TankerKC (Pull your head out.)
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To: All

http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060403/NEWS/60403009

Here's a great story related to the crash. I tried to post it to a new thread, but I guess delawareonline doesn't allow us to post threads from their site.


249 posted on 04/03/2006 1:25:48 PM PDT by TankerKC (Pull your head out.)
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To: Coop; BulletBobCo
I got stuck overnight in the Azores!

Me too! (On a 141)

250 posted on 04/03/2006 1:43:17 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: BulletBobCo

Thanks, BulletBobCo, I couldn't remember for sure if it was two or three bunks in each room. Alzheimer's I guess.


251 posted on 04/03/2006 2:36:29 PM PDT by Orca
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To: BulletBobCo

Great photos on your home page! Thanks for the memories!


252 posted on 04/03/2006 2:44:29 PM PDT by Orca
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To: Blue Scourge

That's good to know but I still think the Air Force should plan on a C-5 Galaxy size Replacement aircraft. The C-5 is getting up there in Years and it will be needed more as time go's by.


253 posted on 04/03/2006 3:34:41 PM PDT by puppypusher
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To: puppypusher

The C-17 is the backbone of the fleet, just look at the numbers, though I do agree a few more C-5s are needed.


254 posted on 04/03/2006 5:11:37 PM PDT by Blue Scourge (C-17, anywhere, anything, anytime.)
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To: Fred Hayek
Bird/Wildlife Aircraft Strike Hazard (BASH)

The menu is on the right hand side of the page. Bird strikes are very costly.

255 posted on 04/03/2006 5:13:19 PM PDT by csvset
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To: All
After my last post this morning I went to bed after working the nightshift.

I do alot of waterfowl hunting not far from the Dover AFB just across the Delaware Bay. I put togeather about 20 images in a gif animation of snowgeese in the area. This will give some of yous a idea what us folks see who live not far from Dover AFB.

From Feb to late March as many as 100,000 to 150,000 snowgeese are within 20 miles of Dover AFB staging for the spring migration to the very northern parts of the Northwest Terr.

CLICK HERE to see gif picture animation I put togeather
256 posted on 04/03/2006 5:32:38 PM PDT by Mr Fowl
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To: Allegra; Dashing Dasher

You have FReepmail! Fortunately, the crew made it out alive, and that's about all I am allowed to say about this.


257 posted on 04/03/2006 6:59:57 PM PDT by JRios1968 (E=mc3...the origin of "friends don't let friends derive drunk.")
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To: Orca

Do those passengers have an LCD set up so they can at least see what's going on outside? I love to fly, but I imagine a plane with minimum windows might be a bit claustrophobia-inducing, notwithstanding its size....


258 posted on 04/03/2006 9:56:02 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: martin_fierro
When I was in the Air Force, I flew inside a C5 from Kadena AB in Okinawa, Japan to Travis AFB an 11 hour non-stop flight {in May 1980 so that I could see "The Empire Strikes Back" in Hollywood}. It was weird to fly in the back of the plane as you are up near the roof and the seats face the rear.

Saying the C5 is huge is an understatement.

259 posted on 04/04/2006 1:18:07 AM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Thermalseeker

Nice story.

I'm hearing this morning that the crew was having a problem with one engine. That thing should easily flying on three and even more easily make an approach and land on three. I just wonder if one of the four got hung up in reverse mode and they couldn't get it shut down? I hate to speculate.

Speaking of awesome. Years ago when I was working out of Dulles for a now defunct airline, I'd routinely see the Concord. The back gate access road allowed you to drive right under the close-in approach end of 1R. One day I saw it coming as I came through the gate and stopped my car and got out as it came overhead. It felt like it was going to take my head off. They carried lots of power all the way to touchdown.


260 posted on 04/04/2006 2:56:16 AM PDT by leadpenny
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