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To: PeterFinn
When someone's very first act in the USA is breaking one of our laws then they are not someone I want in my country.

If that's the criteria, we better start deporting everyone who is guilty of speeding on the freeway. Tony Snow is absolutely right about this issue. He is absolutely right about most issues. :)

Not only that, but the GOP risks handing the Democrats the Hispanic vote for the next 40 years. I don't want that. And if you are a Republican, you don't want it either. This is how the GOP lost California in the 1990s. These people are natural conservatives, but only if you treat them like what most of them are: human beings who want a better life for themselves. President Bush refused to make the same mistake in Texas, and the results speak for themselves.

51 posted on 03/31/2006 12:35:36 PM PST by kesg
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To: kesg
This is how the GOP lost California in the 1990s.

That lie gets constantly trotted out by the Open Borders Lobby, and there's never anything to back it up. How did Prop 187 pass if it was so unpopular?

56 posted on 03/31/2006 12:37:46 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: kesg

"These people are natural conservatives, but only if you treat them like what most of them are: human beings who want a better life for themselves. President Bush refused to make the same mistake in Texas, and the results speak for themselves."

I guess to you that's natural conservative to vote democrat 60%,. Illegal is still illegal, we don't need them.


179 posted on 03/31/2006 1:34:53 PM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: kesg
"President Bush refused to make the same mistake in Texas, and the results speak for themselves."

err...he lost the Texas hispanic vote...every county along the southern border he lost...take a look again at the red/blue map

201 posted on 03/31/2006 1:48:21 PM PST by Reagan 76
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To: kesg

Really! The laws are on the books and stipulate the penalty for violating a speeding law. It is NOT deportation. The law is also on the books and stipulates the penalty for illegal deportation. It IS deportation.

Perhaps you'd like to push to get the penalty changed for a speeding violation.


210 posted on 03/31/2006 1:53:40 PM PST by Binghamton_native
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To: kesg

Their countries are all left wing. Socially conservative? maybe. Economically? nope.


215 posted on 03/31/2006 1:55:38 PM PST by mthom
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To: kesg
...we better start deporting everyone who is guilty of speeding on the freeway.

Now, see? There you go, again, lumping "infractions" together with criminal offenses. I actually heard a government official, with that peculiar timerity born of bureaucracy, argue that illegal immigration is nothing more than an "administrative problem"; in the same league as making an inadvertent error on a form over in the HR department.

I triple-dog-dare you try that line the next time you get a letter from the IRS. You'll get a whole new perspective on the true nature of an "administrative problem". You've heard that "you can't get blood from a turnip"? Bank on this: the IRS knows how. [Funny how the government takes it so much more seriously when revenue is involved.]

So, then, who's next on you list of deportees; liars and BS-peddlers? Guess you'd better get a head start and pack your suitcase tonight.

235 posted on 03/31/2006 2:07:12 PM PST by HKMk23 (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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