[Tarpon]

Fining employers thousands of dollars per worker per offense doesn't sound like it would do anything to me. Heck, just add the fines to your product costs.

[RS]

"Fining employers thousands of dollars per worker per offense doesn't sound like it would do anything to me. Heck, just add the fines to your product costs."

Sure, just sell your lettuce for $5 more a head then those who didn't get caught .... but oops, forgot, your lettuce is rotting in the field.

( think you forgot the </sarcasm> tag :-)

[thoughtomator]

Here's a formula that works:

Take a reasonable estimate of the total number of illegal-hiring employers, divide that by the number who get caught

Multiply it by the difference in a company's costs between hiring an illegal and an American (i.e. half as expensive to hire the illegal, multiply by 2)

Multiply it again by a penalty factor based on the amount the government subsidizes social services for illegals and a crime importation factor

The resulting amount is the proper fine. Then on top of that put the employer in jail for a year *per* illegal employee.

[buoybob]

Even better is that silly notion the senate (I refuse to capitalize the s) is entertaining fining the illegal aliens. What, $1000 dollars now, and a $1000 later, like after they learn to speak english. Como se dici en espanol,
"Can I pay my fine with my welfare or my SSI check?", i.e. who really gets to pay the fines. Just another tax increase smokescreen. Some would say the guvment would be getting their money back. I doubt it. These "senators" really need to go. House sends them up a bill wanting illegal aliens to become felons. senate took care of that in the first half hour.

[dalereed]

"Fining employers thousands of dollars per worker per offense doesn't sound like it would do anything to me. Heck, just add the fines to your product costs."

Fines hell, put them in prison would send a good message and illegal employment would cease very quickly.

With no jobs they would have to go back to wherever they came from.

[Go Gordon]

Fining employers thousands of dollars per worker per offense doesn't sound like it would do anything to me. Heck, just add the fines to your product costs.

They should base the fines on a percentage of the gross revenues of the offending company - say 1/2% per violation.

[Myrddin]

Fining employers thousands of dollars per worker per offense doesn't sound like it would do anything to me. Heck, just add the fines to your product costs.

That works until the fine plus wages paid to your employees drives your costs higher than your competitor who employs only legal labor. Make the fines high enough to force that condition. The legal only employer will be able to offer product at a final cost less than the employer of illegals.