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Mexican flag burned at Apache Junction HS
AZ Star Net ^ | March 31, 2006 | Blake Herzog

Posted on 03/30/2006 11:38:23 PM PST by beaversmom

Tensions over immigration reform heightened in the Phoenix area's East Valley Thursday when students raised a Mexican flag over Apache Junction High School — and then other students yanked it down and burned it. "I know (they) shouldn't have burned the Mexican flag," said Jacob Stewart, a 16-year-old sophomore. "I heard it was raised above the American flag and that just irked me."

He said the turbulence was tied to debates going on in the state Legislature and Congress, where ideas ranging from offering illegal immigrants a chance at citizenship to making them felons are being floated.

Freshman Chelsea Garcia, 15, and junior Brittany Ramage, 16, said the unrest had more to do with long-running racial tensions at the school.

The week's events might have sparked some anger, Ramage said, "but kids aren't too deep about that stuff."

The Hispanic student who brought the Mexican flag said he was responding to a remark directed at him Wednesday. The flag-raising, flag-burning, and shoving match that followed happened before most students arrived at school.

Six students — three Hispanic and three white — will be disciplined, Principal Chad Wilson said.

Officials with the Apache Junction Unified School District would not specify what punishment the six face.

Wilson did say in a letter sent home to parents that there would be "increased supervision, including additional police officers, on the campus over the next couple of days."

School flagpoles have been lightning rods across the country this week, including an incident in which a Houston high-school principal was disciplined after he flew a Mexican flag underneath his campus' U.S. and state flags.

A new political awareness among students has also been grabbing attention, as thousands have walked out on classes to join rallies in Phoenix and elsewhere. More than 100 students from Mesa's Carson Junior High and Westwood High schools marched in protest on Mesa streets Tuesday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; apachejunction; aztlan; flag; flagburning; illegals; immigration; intifada; mexicanflag; mexicanflags; mexico; nacas; nacos; nationalistpride; oldglory; patriotsarise; reconquista; redandgreendawn
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To: Looking4Truth

Forgive me. I've been living in California too long. -:)


261 posted on 03/31/2006 9:38:37 AM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Brad's Gramma
You know exactly what I meant....but hey.

This poster is doing what the Mexican reconquistas are trying to do all over the cable news and radio call in talking shows, to somehow sound so reasonable all the while doing their utmost best to beguile as many uninformed Americans into thinking how "moderate" and "fair minded" they are on this subject in hopes of duping lesser informed citizens and trying to get them used to accepting this ongoing invasion. But if one pays just a little attention to their actual words they are quickly found out for who they are and what they're up to.

Thank you for seeing through their dishonest schemes and calling them out for their misguided attempts and keep up the good work.

262 posted on 03/31/2006 9:42:32 AM PST by Ron H. (Militarize Americas Borders Today and Wall it Off!!)
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To: burzum

I don't believe that is what Brad's Grandma meant. I think like most of us she looks at raising the flag of another nation above our flag as an act of insurrection (especially in light of all the protests going on this past week).

BTW... I read your about page, thank you for your service to our country. My sympathy goes out to you and prayers for your survival in lib Seattle and U of W! (All of my liberal siblings live in Washington State).


263 posted on 03/31/2006 9:42:34 AM PST by antceecee (Hey AG Gonzales! ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW!!!)
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To: Clemenza

Care to define the differences between mexicans, hispanics and latinos while you are educating us?


264 posted on 03/31/2006 9:48:08 AM PST by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: sociotard
Good morning.
but if, say, an irish flag were hoisted under it, nobody would get all riled up."

That's a deceitful statement. The Irish are not claiming the Southwest as their own and they are not telling us to move out if we don't like it.

"Or how about another example: The Confederate Flag."

More deceit. You are on a roll, kid. Address the issue of the Reconquista.

The Confederacy didn't try to conquer any territory outside of their state boundaries and the combatants were all Americans. There was enough death, though, wasn't there.

Michael Frazier
265 posted on 03/31/2006 9:53:50 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: antceecee; Brad's Gramma
OK, I misunderstood Brad's Granma. Yes, I agree that those students are insurrectionists. That is why they must be expelled.

I am also a little angry at the schools themselves. They failed to defend the flag. I doubt they weren't warned. How hard is it to post someone with a walkie-talkie within sight of the flagpole? If school teachers and principals were more patriotic this never would have happened. It will continue to happen because these same people think that the flag is just a piece of cloth and that it isn't their duty to defend it. They are just teachers (they think).

In my opinion, it wouldn't be uncalled for to have an armed guard posted.
266 posted on 03/31/2006 9:57:33 AM PST by burzum (A single reprimand does more for a man of intelligence than a hundred lashes for a fool.--Prov 17:10)
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To: burzum
Raising the Mexican flag above the school in the US is a very provocative act, but so is burning the Mexican flag in response. If no example is set, then violence could quickly break out.

Then let it break out. That's why there is a Second Amendment, we're being invaded and the government is not doing the very thing for which it is created for !

The US Federal government is failing it's most basic responsibility under the Social Contract.

267 posted on 03/31/2006 9:58:25 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Islam's true face: http://makeashorterlink.com/?J169127BC)
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To: B4Ranch
Latinos are Latin-American. Hispanics are of any Spanish origin regardless of race or nationality. Mexicans are Mexican nationals.

However you look at it, the ones who are carrying their flags and taking over the streets are invaders.

268 posted on 03/31/2006 9:58:58 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Deconstructionist

Bump .. thanks


269 posted on 03/31/2006 10:00:56 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Every man must be tempted, sometimes,to hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.)
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To: catholicfreeper

A FEW?? Hundreds of THOUSANDS is a "few"?


270 posted on 03/31/2006 10:03:16 AM PST by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: adam_az
We need to start rounding up the illegals and deporting them - there are just far too many of these criminals roaming across the land demanding special perks. These demonstrations showed to those who so far have favored them that the illegal aliens are dangerous and anti-America, not the kind of people we need to beg to become citizens.
271 posted on 03/31/2006 10:03:40 AM PST by Dante3
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To: B4Ranch
Mexicans= People from Mexico, most of whom are racially mixed, usually with more Indian blood than European.

Hispanics= Term largely used by the government referring to all Spanish speakers. About as stupid as putting Jamaicans and Englishmen in the same ethnic category.

Latino= Anyone from Latin America, regardless of race or nationality.

I thought Calipornians were hip to such things...

272 posted on 03/31/2006 10:05:54 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: burzum

" If school teachers and principals were more patriotic..."

...amd therein lies the problem in our schools. Many teachers and administrators foment this behaviour. Many have no love of the US or it's citizens.
Interesting to see all of the school buses used to take middle and high school kids to the La Marcha.


273 posted on 03/31/2006 10:07:23 AM PST by antceecee (Hey AG Gonzales! ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW!!!)
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To: Ajnin; All

Posted for those who are flag-challenged:
TITLE 4—FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES
§ 7. Position and manner of display
Release date: 2006-03-20

The flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags, should be either on the marching right; that is, the flag’s own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the center of that line.
(a) The flag should not be displayed on a float in a parade except from a staff, or as provided in subsection (i) of this section.
(b) The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.
(c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.
(d) The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag’s own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag.
(e) The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.
(f) When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be placed above the flag of the United States or to the United States flag’s right.
(g) When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.
(h) When the flag of the United States is displayed from a staff projecting horizontally or at an angle from the window sill, balcony, or front of a building, the union of the flag should be placed at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half-staff. When the flag is suspended over a sidewalk from a rope extending from a house to a pole at the edge of the sidewalk, the flag should be hoisted out, union first, from the building.
(i) When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag’s own right, that is, to the observer’s left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street.
(j) When the flag is displayed over the middle of the street, it should be suspended vertically with the union to the north in an east and west street or to the east in a north and south street.
(k) When used on a speaker’s platform, the flag, if displayed flat, should be displayed above and behind the speaker. When displayed from a staff in a church or public auditorium, the flag of the United States of America should hold the position of superior prominence, in advance of the audience, and in the position of honor at the clergyman’s or speaker’s right as he faces the audience. Any other flag so displayed should be placed on the left of the clergyman or speaker or to the right of the audience.
(l) The flag should form a distinctive feature of the ceremony of unveiling a statue or monument, but it should never be used as the covering for the statue or monument.
(m) The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection—
(1) the term “half-staff” means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff;
(2) the term “executive or military department” means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5, United States Code; and
(3) the term “Member of Congress” means a Senator, a Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico.
(n) When the flag is used to cover a casket, it should be so placed that the union is at the head and over the left shoulder. The flag should not be lowered into the grave or allowed to touch the ground.
(o) When the flag is suspended across a corridor or lobby in a building with only one main entrance, it should be suspended vertically with the union of the flag to the observer’s left upon entering. If the building has more than one main entrance, the flag should be suspended vertically near the center of the corridor or lobby with the union to the north, when entrances are to the east and west or to the east when entrances are to the north and south. If there are entrances in more than two directions, the union should be to the east.

http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/


274 posted on 03/31/2006 10:14:46 AM PST by antceecee (Hey AG Gonzales! ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW!!!)
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To: hope
Good morning.
"This is getting a little scary."

What is, that the radio stations will not be able to foment insurrection or that it has reached the point that action is being taken to counter them?

Michael Frazier
275 posted on 03/31/2006 10:15:30 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Clemenza

Re your comment about Hispanics, you are feeling strongly opinionated today, aren't you? Good for you.


276 posted on 03/31/2006 10:23:37 AM PST by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: antceecee

Bump THAT!!!


277 posted on 03/31/2006 10:28:49 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (I'm going SHOPPING on May 1!!!)
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To: B4Ranch

FYI...footsie report. All's fine on the homefront.

Carry on! ;)


278 posted on 03/31/2006 10:29:29 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (I'm going SHOPPING on May 1!!!)
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To: beaversmom

ACLU will probably sue the American kid on behalf of the illegals.


279 posted on 03/31/2006 10:30:43 AM PST by jw777
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To: Brad's Gramma

Thanks BG!


280 posted on 03/31/2006 10:32:57 AM PST by antceecee (Hey AG Gonzales! ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW!!!)
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