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DNA could modify itself with no outside help, say biologists
Princeton University ^ | March 28, 2006 | Chad Boutin

Posted on 03/29/2006 1:47:22 PM PST by SampleMan

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To: PatrickHenry

And why exactly am I a "troll". I have been on FR for some time. I post regularly.

What was it about this article that you found to be an afront? Have you even commented on the article, or just the heretics?

I found the article interesting and a possible connection to what I find lacking in the understanding of evolution. An explanation of mutation, as I think it likely occurs. You are certainly free to disagree, but you won't get there by simply calling me a troll.

I started out by amusingly noting that my post would stir up a hornets nest of people denouncing ID, whether ID was present or not. I was absolutely correct.


61 posted on 03/29/2006 5:42:12 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: SampleMan
The ability to evolve, itself evolves.
62 posted on 03/29/2006 5:43:15 PM PST by Physicist
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To: js1138
Who the hell said the article was wrong. It's your false comment that we disagree with.

Reminds me of the man who got stoned to death for telling a crowd that they were uncivil. They showed him.

63 posted on 03/29/2006 5:44:19 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

I'm rubber, you're glue. Now go and read the article and argue with Princeton.


64 posted on 03/29/2006 5:45:35 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: SampleMan
And why exactly am I a "troll".

Who knows? It's not interesting enough to pursue.

65 posted on 03/29/2006 5:46:45 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: SampleMan
And why exactly am I a "troll".

I started out by amusingly noting that my post would stir up a hornets nest of people denouncing ID, whether ID was present or not. I was absolutely correct.

That constitutes a confession of trolling. Not that there's anything wrong with that (IMHO), mind you...but you can at least spare us the dudgeon over the accusation.

66 posted on 03/29/2006 5:47:27 PM PST by Physicist
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To: SampleMan

"I'm rubber, you're glue. Now go and read the article and argue with Princeton."

How about instead you provide:

1) A post where I told someone to shut up
2) Any scientists who has ever said that everything there is to know about evolution is already known.


67 posted on 03/29/2006 5:47:52 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: js1138; CarolinaGuitarman; PatrickHenry; freedumb2003

While I've singlehandedly had you all tied down tilting at my windmill, the IDers have staged a coup and taken over the country's biology departments. You're doomed.

If you want to know why reasonable people think evolutionists are incapable of discussing evolution without venom, look no further than yourselves.

On many occasions I've joined a thread about evolution to try to add what I think is a perplexing issue concerning mutation. One or all of you have been tripwired to attack. Although I have never pushed ID (and have repeatedly said that I don't feel ID is necessary to justify my faith), you feel free to attack me and/or my religion. You are a bunch of self-righteous hacks that can't stand anyone discussing something that you think is incorrect. In short, you're the type that no one wants to sit next to at the bar.

I've stated repeatedly that I believe that evolution occurs, and repeatedly been told that I'm a liar with a not so secret ID agenda. I've been told that my ideas on mutation couldn't possibly be correct and that I'm an idiot.

So you all got your panties in a wad because I said you weren't open to new ideas. What's funny is that I simply posted the "rabid dog" sign, you all ran and stood under it.


68 posted on 03/29/2006 6:02:07 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: SampleMan

How about instead you provide:

1) A post where I told someone to shut up
2) Any scientists who has ever said that everything there is to know about evolution is already known.


69 posted on 03/29/2006 6:05:42 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Quark2005; grey_whiskers

"Why did you double-post the nylon bug?"


Kill it before it multiplies!!!!


70 posted on 03/29/2006 6:07:12 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: SampleMan
So you all got your panties in a wad because I said you weren't open to new ideas. What's funny is that I simply posted the "rabid dog" sign, you all ran and stood under it.

I can go on any thread and post strawman arguments and/or just lie say things less that true (remember Freepspeak) about things.

Such things just makes one an a$$hole -- not nearly as clever as you think you are.

71 posted on 03/29/2006 6:09:14 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: freedumb2003
Wow, how elegant. You sure proved me wrong didn't you. Enjoy your barstool, or is that too esoteric for you?
72 posted on 03/29/2006 6:11:56 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: SampleMan

"All recognized scientists agree on the general TToE.

Let me guess as to how one goes about getting unrecognized."


Sign up again as Unrecognized Scientist?


73 posted on 03/29/2006 6:14:11 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: PatrickHenry
People are always trying to unzip my DNA.
74 posted on 03/29/2006 6:15:39 PM PST by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: SampleMan
I can point you to a leading Korean scientist that's good at cloning, or perhaps you're interested in claims of cold fusion?

Neither would be examples of what I asked.

Gosh, you got me. I don't have a quote of a "leading scientist" saying, "I declare that there is nothing more to learn about evolution."

So when you stated "Apparently not all the scientists at Princeton are drinking the "everything there is to know about evolution is already known" Kool-Aid.", you were not attempting to imply that there are any scientists at Princeton who do say that everything there is to know about evolution is already known? If so, then why did you make a comment in the first place, given that it could have such implications?
75 posted on 03/29/2006 6:28:04 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
You need to take lessons, so that you too can play THE TROLL GAME:

Step one: Troll makes outrageous, unsupportable statement about scientists and Kool-Aid. (post 1)
Step two: Someone asks for verification.
Step three: Troll dodges by making reference to some earlier thread. (post 10)
Step four: Someone else asks for verification.
Step five: Troll dodges again. (post 36)
Step six: Another person asks for verification.
Step seven: Troll dodges again, mentions cold fusion. (post 38)
Step eight: Troll claims his "rabid" opposition is amusing. (post 42)
Step nine: Troll dodges accusation that he made up his original statement, tells poster to stay focused. (post 45)
Step ten: Troll accuse a poster of improper behavior, without providing evidence. (Post 51)
Step eleven: Etc., etc., etc. [Continue until thread is moved to Smokey Backroom, at which point you've won.]

76 posted on 03/29/2006 6:49:23 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: grey_whiskers; Quark2005
Why did you double-post the nylon bug?

They come in "pairs".

77 posted on 03/29/2006 6:59:52 PM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: SampleMan

78 posted on 03/29/2006 7:10:08 PM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: PatrickHenry

Aw, shucks, now they will all know how to do it!


79 posted on 03/29/2006 7:24:15 PM PST by balrog666 (Irrational beliefs inspire irrational posts.)
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To: bobdsmith

"We don't even fully understand gravity."

We Really don't understand gravity.
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.html
A gravitational effect from electro-magnetism (spinning superconductor).


80 posted on 03/29/2006 7:26:20 PM PST by edwin hubble
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