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1 posted on 03/29/2006 10:04:37 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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My company added the "no firearms on company property" policy to the annual "ethics" briefing as of October 2005. Fortunately, my "office" is my home. I don't have an office on company property. I did have an office in San Diego in 1999. I also had my firearms in the car for lunchtime trips to the range. It was not forbidden in company policy at that time. Now that the company has adopted a "no firearms on company property" policy, I will not work on company property.
103 posted on 03/29/2006 11:11:46 AM PST by Myrddin
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Well, you could always go and work for a company with no weapons policy.


107 posted on 03/29/2006 11:13:33 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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What it seems to boil down to, is that when you accept employment you give up all your rights to your employers whim. Sounds more and more like old times indenturement than a job.
115 posted on 03/29/2006 11:20:22 AM PST by fella (Respect does not equal fear unless your a tyrant.)
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My sidearms go wherever I choose to take them.


122 posted on 03/29/2006 11:42:59 AM PST by samcgwire ("I voted for President 'Better Than Kerry'")
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Houston-based ConocoPhillips is challenging a law in Oklahoma that allows workers to leave guns in their cars parked on company property.

The company said it is simply trying to provide a "safe and secure working environment for its employees by keeping guns out of their worksites, specifically refineries, natural gas plants and distribution terminals."

IF the company that prohibits you from carrying on its premises is also responsible to you for the criminal acts of others - since they are, after all, impliedly telling you that the place is safe and therefor you need no gun to protect yourself - then I'd have less of a problem.

I have a HUGE problem with them telling you that you can't have a gun in your car. What they are telling you is that you cannot take measures for your own security on your way to or from work, and this only months after Texas just passed a law enabling ANYONE who can legally possess a handgun to carry it concealed in their auto.

I also think that one must differentiate between business locations where there are only employees (back office operations, mines, refineries, etc.) vs. retail establishments. In my view, if a place is open to the public it should be illegal under the Constitution to deny someone the right to carry. Why? Well, if a place is open to the public you can't (and shouldn't be able to) say "No Blacks/Jews/Irish/Mexicans, etc. Allowed." That would be a violation of their civil rights...as would denying them the right to carry a firearm. And what applies to the public should also apply to the employees - they are, after all, also members of the public. With closed facilities, I'd only tolerate a gun ban if state/federal law specifically made the business financially responsible for any violence perpetrated on unarmed employees - and even then, I'd be very uneasy.

I carry at work whenever I want to - but, then again, I'm self-employed so I make that decision. I feel badly for those who don't have the freedom of choice that I do, particularly if they have to travel to and from bad neighborhoods to get to and from work.

123 posted on 03/29/2006 11:49:34 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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Unless they are going to give employers the right to search your car, it's really a moot point. I'll keep whatever I want in my car, thank you.


129 posted on 03/29/2006 12:39:29 PM PST by monkeybrau
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Granger Durdin could take her gun everywhere, she said she would.

Sounds like Tyler Durdin of Fight Club.

133 posted on 03/29/2006 12:54:15 PM PST by i.l.e. (Tagline - this space for sale....)
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There is a difference between "should you be able to" and "you have a right to".

There are many things which you should be able to do, but can't, because you do not have the right to do them without someone else's willing participation.

This seems to fall into that category.

138 posted on 03/29/2006 1:31:16 PM PST by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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If no one has a reason to search my car nothing inside will be at risk. Be prudent, behave yourself. Good advice always.


153 posted on 03/29/2006 2:35:18 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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ConocoPhillips is one of several companies asking an Oklahoma judge to clear the way for employers to prevent workers from keeping pistols in the parking lot.

The company says it, "supports the second amendment and the rights of law abiding citizens to own guns".

Apparently their PR flacks have never heard of an Englishman named George Orwell.

165 posted on 03/30/2006 3:07:04 AM PST by Hardastarboard (HEY - Billy Joe! You ARE an American Idiot!)
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As Bob Hope said to Jane Russell, "That's a nice pair of .45's you've got there." Said Jane, "Yeah, and I'm packing a set of guns too."


172 posted on 03/30/2006 4:33:10 AM PST by Doc Savage (Of all these things you can be sure, only love...will endure.......................)
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"Should you be able to take your gun to work?"

Yes!

174 posted on 03/30/2006 4:47:03 AM PST by meyer (Dems are stuck on stupid. Al Gore invented stupid.)
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