Posted on 03/22/2006 5:24:01 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
"As beautiful as Laura is, she has more ba--s than boy Gregory, in my opinion :)"
You said it! She's awesome--and she's a true babe. :)
"I looked forward to his reports, mainly because he spoke Arabic so well and could really tell us what was being said. But he was apparently "off the reservation" as far as NBC was concerned. Engle's end-of-the-world reporting is what they wanted."
Great point!! Dr. Arnot came back with terrific stories about what attitudes among Iraqis were, about the wonderful services our troops were doing on behalf of the lives and liberties of the citizens of Iraq; and what did NBC do? It replaced his coverage with more gloom-and-doom-anti-Bush reporting.
So much for NBC's "objective" information gathering on behalf of the "American people" they love to cite as being against the President's efforts in Iraq!
In a period of about a week (last week) I saw three strikingly posiitve reports -- two on the Evening News and one on 60 Minutes. I believe one of them was the report referred to by the president on Monday. A CBS reporter was out with the troops in a pacified town and showed a very grateful Iraqi populus and some impressive young soldiers.
Another report related to the war was a very touching account of a group of citizen volunteers who make it their business to provide a little homecoming welcome for troop planes refueling in Maine as they return to the U.S.
On the other side, CBS has been about to wet themselves with the desire to label the current situation a "civil war." I consider this extremely biased and irresponsible. They ellucidate nothing whatsoever by -- if they are successful -- reducing the complexity there to a catch phrase. In fact, they distort reality forcing it into a category that will turn some crucial, half-attentive public opinion from uncertain to dispairing. And they are obsessed with doing this.
Thanks for your report. It will be interesting to see if things change if and when Katie moves over to CBS!
I wonder what ever happened to Dr. Bob Arnot?
O'Reilly tried to get Ingraham to say that the media is actively undermining the United States operations in Iraq. Ingraham wouldn't go that far, but she did agree that the MSM is blinded by their hatred for Bush, and may not be seeing the impacts of their reporting decisions.
-PJ
Clearly Ingraham struck a nerve. NBC, and MSNBC both spent an enormous amoutn of time on the nightly news and Hardball on this. Olbermann did too, but I turned him off the second the show came on.
Gregory, James Carvill and others are screaming "80 journalists have been killed in Iraq"
http://www.rsf.org/special_iraq_en.php3
Actually the actual number is 60 plus 26 assitants (translators,drivers, etc)
Out of these, only a handful are Western Journalists.
13.03.2006 - Muhsin Khudhair, Alef Ba
11.03.2006 - Amjad Hameed, Al-Iraqiya
07.03.2006 - Monsef Al-Khalidi, Baghdad TV Sat Channel
23.02.2006 - Atwar Bahjat, al-Arabiya TV
23.01.2006 - Hamza Hussein, sport journalist at private TV station Al-Diyar
28.11.2005 - Akeel Abdul Rwdha, AL-Iraqia
07.11.2005 - Ahmed Hussein Al Maliki, Tall Afar
19.10.2005 - Mohamed Haroun, Union of Iraqi Journalists general secretary
21.09.2005 - Firas Al-Maadhidi, Al-Safir
20.09.05 - Hind Ismail, Al-Safir
19.09.2005 - Fakher Haydar Al-Tamimi, New York Times
27.08.2005 - Rafed Al Rubaii, Al Irakiya
02.08.05 - Steven Vincent, freelance journalist
22.06.2005 - Yasser Al Salihy, Knight Ridder
03.07.2005 - Maha Ibrahim, Baghdad TV
01.07.2005 - Khaled Sabih al Attar, al-Iraqia
28.06.2005 - Wael Al Bakri, Al Charkiyah
22.06.05 - Jassim Al Qais, Al Siyada
15.05.2005 - Najem Abed Khodair, Al-Madaa and Tariq al-Shaab
15.05.2005 - Ahmad Adam, Al-Madaa and Sabah
23.04.2005 - Saleh Ibrahim, Associated Press
15.04.2005 - Shamal Abdallah Assad, Kirkuk TV, Kurdsat
14.04.2005 - Ali Abrahim Aissa, Al-Hurriya TV
14.04.2005 - Fadel Hazem Fadel, Al-Hurriya TV
01.04.2005 - Ahmed Jabbar Hashim, Al Sabah
14.03.2005 - Houssam Hilal Sarsam, Kurdistan-TV
10.03.2005 - Laik Ibrahim, Kurdistan-TV
25.02.2005 - Raeda Mohammed Wageh Wazzan, Iraqiya
09.02.2005 - Abdel Hussein Khazaal, Al-Hurra TV
01.11.2004 - Dhia Najim, Reuters
27.10.2004 - Liqaa Abdul-Razzaq, Al-Sharqiya
14.10.2004 - Karam Hussein, European Pressphoto Agency
14.10.2004 - Dina Mohamad Hassan, Al Hurriya Television
7.10.2004 - Ahmad Jassem, Nivive television
12.09.2004 - Mazen al-Tomaizi, Al-Arabiya
26.08.2004 - Enzo Baldoni, Diario della settimana
15.08.2004 - Mahmoud Hamid Abbas, ZDF
15.08.2004 - Hossam Ali, freelance
03.06.2004 - Sahar Saad Eddine Nouami, Al-Mizan, Al-Khaima, Al-Hayat Al-Gadida
27.05.2004 - Kotaro Ogawa, Nikkan Gendai
27.05.2004 - Shinsuke Hashida, Nikkan Gendai
07.05.2004 - Mounir Bouamrane, TVP
07.05.2004 - Waldemar Milewicz, TVP
19.04.2004 - Assad Kadhim, Al-Iraqiya TV
26.03.2004 - Bourhan Mohammad al-Louhaybi , ABC News
18.03.2004 - Ali Abdel Aziz, Al-Arabiya
18.03.2004 - Ali Al-Khatib, Al-Arabiya
18.03.2004 - Nadia Nasrat, Diyala Television
28.10.2003 - Ahmed Shawkat, Bila Ittijah
17.08.2003 - Mazen Dana, Reuters
02.07.2003 - Ahmad Karim, Kurdistan Satellite TV
07.04.2003 - Julio Anguita Parrado, El Mundo
07.04.2003 - Christian Liebig, Focus
08.04.2003 - Tarek Ayoub, Al Jazeera
08.04.2003 - Taras Protsyuk, Reuters
08.04.2003 - José Couso, Tele 5
04.04.2003 - Michael Kelly , Washington Post
02.04.2003 - Kaveh Golestan , BBC
23.03.2003 - Terry Lloyd, ITV News
22.03.2003 - Paul Moran, Australian Broadcasting Corporation
26 Media assistants killed
11.03.2006 - Anwar Turky, Amjad Hameeds driver, Al-Iraqiya
23.02.2006 - Adnane Kahïnallah, sound recordist Al-Arabiya
23.02.2006 - Khaled Mahmoud Al-Falahi, cameraman Al-Arabiya
25.01.2006 - Mahmoud Zaal, Television cameraman at Baghdad TV satellite channel
16.01.2006 - Luaay Salam Radeef, Al-Baghdadia Cameraman
10.01.2006 - Allan Enwiyah, American journalist Jill Carrolls interpreter
21.09.05 - Ahlam Youssef , Al-Iraqiya TV
17.09.2005 - Sabah Mohssin, Al-Iraqiya
28.08.2005 - Waleed Khaled, Reuters TV
23.07.2005 - Adnan Al Bayati, Rai, Mediaset, TG3 and Panorama
02.09.2004 - Ismaïl Taher Mohsin, Associated Press
25.08.2004 - Jamal Tawfiq Salmane, Gazeta Wyborcza
29.05.2004 - Mahmoud Ismael Daood, bodyguard, Al-Sabah al-Jadid
29.05.2004 - Samia Abdeljabar, driver, Al-Sabah al-Jadid
27.05.2004 - Muhammad Aldin, translator, Le Soir
25.05.2004 - Unknown, translator
21.05.2004 - Rachid Hamid Wali, cameraman assistant, Al-Jazira
29.04.2004 - Hussein Saleh, driver, Al-Iraquiya TV
26.03.2004 - Omar Hashim Kamal, translator, Time
18.03.2004 - Majid Rachid, technician, Diyala Television
18.03.2004 - Mohamad Ahmad, security agent, Diyala Television
27.01.2004 - Duraid Isa Mohammed, producer and translator, CNN
27.01.2004 - Yasser Khatab, driver, CNN
07.07.2003 - Jeremy Little, sound engineer, NBC
06.04.2003 - Kamaran Abdurazaq Muhamed, translator, BBC
22.03.2003 - Hussein Othman, translator, ITV News
The Today Show crowd is nothing but a bunch of manipulative liberals whose reason for breathing is to "make" the news and not report it. They exist only to sway public opinion to their way of thinking. Thank God we have the luxury of shutting them up by changing the channel.
About 2/3 of the journalists killed are locals hired by the MSM because it's too dangerous to send marquee reporters to some of the areas being covered. But these folks were hired to cover the stories. But some MSM reporters/crew have been killed or seriously injured while on coverage. The ABC reporter and his camera man come to mind.
Fox news has had Ollie North over there many times and yet not a single person on this thread has pointed that out. His reports detail the bravery of the soldiers as well as the problems they face.
Believe me, it won't be done before another admin comes in.
Plus he was sending a message that Americans won't cut and run like some want us to ... including the terrorists
I'm not suggesting that as a course of action. But in a way we're sort of stuck. We really can't even if we wanted to.
So in your estimation, based on what you believe to be happening, when do you see a likely withdrawl of troops?
In all honestly .. I don't know ..
Though, I do think we will have some sort of troop level/base there or somewhere around there for some time .. just like we did in Europe after WWII
I also know that we cannot leave/drop troop level until they are stable and can stand their own ground .. just like in WWII .. because there are some in the middle east and even here at home that would like them and us to fail
I don't want them to report the news to my satisfaction
I just want them to report the news actually and honestly and then let the chips fall where they may
The problem is .. some in the media want to make up my mind up for me .. some don't want me to think for myself
"So 61 journalists killed since the invasion took place means they are reporting from their balconies? I can't find a figure on those injured."
Let's find out how many of those were journalists
from foreign news services and were out in the field.
I've seen a lot of those guys being credited in reports
and casualty reports.
Then, let's find out how many American journalists were
hurt or killed standing on their balconies. Whats-her-name said that on the NBC evening news last night: "Even the balconies can be dangerous." Then see how many American journalists were killed or injured in Baghdad.
Then let's see who's left.
The fact that NBC has been out there since yesterday defending the criticism of the coverage means the critics are absolutely right.
I don't entirely buy the argument of WWII. Most of our troops were put there not to keep the Germans, the Italians or the Japenese in place as policemen. They were there as part of the cold war......to keep an eye on the Soviets.
Okay then. When Bush or conservatives who believe in the overall objective for the Iraq War say that there is progress which we are not seeing on the MSM, what is the response?
Find me a story that doesn't say he (or in your view, us) is optimistic "despite the reality on the ground." Never will you see an admission that the press puts US abuses, US mistakes and Bush's "bubble" on the front page because it sells to their audience. Even if you discount the documented facts (which you can look up) that the press is overwhelmingly liberal, they could for once look for the stories that actually support the war effort. They wouldn't spend their time on it.
I was a liberal. I know how they think. They don't look for positive stories (or anything from the conservative point of view). But that's not the point. The press only challenges positive news that put the US in a good light...you will not see them challenge allegations of America's evil from the enemy or from foreign countries.
I don't think you believe the MSM is always accurate and tell the whole picture. However, if you are a conservative...have you ever seen a story in the MSM which does not challenge the conservative point of view (or ignore it completely)? Compare that to the number of times the liberal/anti-war/anti-gun/anti-small govt/tax reducing point of view is reported without challenge.
Ingram was partially right and partially wrong. But being good conservatives, we're suppposed to attack the portion that is wrong to discredit the whole report.
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