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Lacking basis, Christians fight abortion
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 3/20/06 | C. Joshua Villines

Posted on 03/20/2006 2:23:32 PM PST by madprof98

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To: Dan Middleton


Since, Jesus is to come back as the Lion...I'd say, he'd bomb the same people.


21 posted on 03/20/2006 2:34:06 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: MBB1984

You don't really think this guy is the least bit interested in what the Bible says do you?


22 posted on 03/20/2006 2:34:06 PM PST by iluvlucy (swim the Tiber, the water is fine)
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To: madprof98; Aquinasfan

Somone needs to read some Thomas Aquinas writings...


23 posted on 03/20/2006 2:34:53 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Dan Middleton

"No, there's not."

I saw that too. He bases his argument in fantasy. Civil discourse is not possible with people who have no basis in reality.


24 posted on 03/20/2006 2:35:05 PM PST by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: madprof98

As an ordained minister of the United Church of Christ, I certainly wouldn't label Vilines a Christian. He's more of an adherent to the old Flip Wilson's "The Church of What's Happenin' Now". But not to worry...God knows exactly who is in favor of murdering His little ones and those people will have a special punishment.


25 posted on 03/20/2006 2:35:11 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: ZGuy

He is a prime example of why people are leaving the UCC in droves.


26 posted on 03/20/2006 2:36:20 PM PST by Russ
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To: madprof98
The issue is which carries more weight: the life that may be in the embryo, or the life and needs of the woman in whose body that embryo was conceived?

I vote for the life that didn't have the choice to screw around and get knocked up as having more weight.

27 posted on 03/20/2006 2:36:28 PM PST by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: madprof98
How about we stop being pro-abortion? Does the Rev. know the U.S. has the least restrictive abortion laws in the industrial world? Does he care? How does he feel about tax $$ going to Planned Parenthood? What he help advocate getting Silent Scream shown on Prime Time Netowrk TV as various pro-abort films (fictional) have been?

He's a phony and should be ignored.

28 posted on 03/20/2006 2:38:18 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: madprof98

Please "BARF ALERT" these articles!!


29 posted on 03/20/2006 2:43:13 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
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To: madprof98
"Other Christian pastors have chosen otherwise, and our division on this issue is proof that there is no Christian consensus here."

Oh, yes there is, "pastor" Villines!

This guy tries his best to build straw-man arguments by attributing moral equivalences to unrelated issues.

He should spend more time studying his Bible instead of indulging in those superfluous "theological" arguments stuffed in his head from his seminary.

30 posted on 03/20/2006 2:44:04 PM PST by nightdriver
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The "reverend" must have attended the George Costanza School of Theology.


31 posted on 03/20/2006 2:44:20 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: madprof98

This man seems to be lost- intellectually and spiritually.


32 posted on 03/20/2006 2:45:47 PM PST by Rockitz (Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: madprof98

C. Joshua Villines = nickname for 1940s Harley Big Twin


33 posted on 03/20/2006 2:50:01 PM PST by Disambiguator (Unfettered gun ownership is the highest expression of civil rights.)
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To: madprof98
In practice, there are other questions we must ask. Does a God of love and life ever support war? Does such a God understand that some innocent civilians will die when we fight to protect our freedoms? In other words, does God approve when we make the decision to kill other people to protect our quality of life? What about when we kill to prevent genocide?

Moral relativism, the kind we see when comparing the execution of murderers with abortion.

Does loving your enemy mean not punishing him? No, for loving myself does not mean that I ought not to subject myself to punishment--even to death. If you had committed a murder, the right Christian thing to do would be to give yourself up to the police and be hanged. It is, therefore, in my opinion, perfectly right for a Christian judge to sentence a man to death or a Christian soldier to kill an enemy. I have always thought so, ever since I became a Christian, and long before the war, and I still think so now that we are at peace. It is no good quoting 'Thou shalt not kill.' There are two Greek words: the ordinary word to kill and the word to murder. And when Christ quotes the commandment He uses the murder one in all three accounts, Matthew, Mark, and Luke. And I am told there is the same distintion in Hebrew. All killing is not murder any more than all sexual intercource is adultery.

--C.S. Lewis, 'Mere Christianity'

34 posted on 03/20/2006 2:53:09 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: ziggygrey
Both sides should get behind a "save the unborn" movement, if we all decided to end miscarriage, like we eradicated smallpox or polio. An estimated 1/4 to 1/3 of the preborns are aborted spontaneously..that's 1-2 million preborn babies a year! We wouldn't stand idly by if a million children a year died of a new strand of smallpox.

Part of the indifference to the abortion issue stems from our disregard of human life before birth in general.

It's true miscarriage is heartbreaking, and many people are callous about it.

There are treatments for many causes of miscarriage. Some problems are fairly simple to treat, others very difficult.

About half of miscarriages are caused by a genetic defect in the unborn child - most of them miscarried before you could test, damage done before you could test, tests invasive and carrying risk.

How would you correct a trisomy in every cell, for instance? If you could do that kind of genetic manipulation what re-design of human beings would the brave new world contemplate?

Should everyone be conceived in vitro, controlled? There are worse evils than miscarriage.

Mrs VS

35 posted on 03/20/2006 2:55:27 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: madprof98

36 posted on 03/20/2006 2:56:05 PM PST by aomagrat ("Now having seen muslim mercy, I would rather worship cobras.")
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To: madprof98

---"An ordained United Church of Christ pastor"---

I think you could have just printed this part and everyone would have already known his politics and real motivation.


37 posted on 03/20/2006 2:57:01 PM PST by TitansAFC ("'C' is for 'cookie,' that's good enough for me" -- C. Monster)
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To: madprof98
The author's name - C. Joshua Villines - must be mispelled.

Maybe it should be:

C. Joshua Villain

38 posted on 03/20/2006 2:58:02 PM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: madprof98; ziggygrey

I was trolling DU to see their reaction to Bush's speech. Yeah typical vile as you might imagine. However I noticed a thread on DU entirely dedicated to your comment on this thread. Congrats your famous lol

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=709083&mesg_id=709083


39 posted on 03/20/2006 3:02:11 PM PST by catholicfreeper
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...An ordained United Church of Christ pastor...

That explains volumes. If this guy is a Christian, then I'm a Chinese astronaut!

40 posted on 03/20/2006 3:08:56 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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