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Minutemen Protest In Costa Mesa (pics) ACLU Meeting to Help Illegals
3/17/06

Posted on 03/17/2006 10:24:42 PM PST by Ladycalif

MIRNA BURCIAGA, OWNER OF EL CHANACO RESTAURANT, located at 19th St. and Maple St. in Costa Mesa, is against Mayor Mansoor's plan to have the Costa Mesa Police Dept. assist U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to arrest criminal illegal aliens.

MIRNA BURCIAGA is also a racial supremacist member/supporter of La Raza/Mecha/Maldef/La Voz


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: border; immigrantlist; immigration; minutemen
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To: Dead Corpse

Fine - the question has 2 subparts:

a) Do you want to see all LEGAL immigration to the U.S. stopped as a temporary measure to get a handle on ILLEGAL immigration?

b) Do you want to see all LEGAL immigration to the U.S. stopped altogether?


181 posted on 03/20/2006 1:55:34 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Exactly my point, but let's start with the basics I guess first.


182 posted on 03/20/2006 1:56:16 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

OK by this post then you defeat your own economic based argument. You know, the one where you put economics before the rule of law.

What makes you think any Illegal would respect any law when they break the law the instant they cross the border without permission?


183 posted on 03/20/2006 1:56:35 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: BlueStateDepression

Please re-read then.


184 posted on 03/20/2006 1:56:38 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

Neither. I think we need to adjust the legal quota for immigration, but get rid of all the illegals currently hammering hte system.


185 posted on 03/20/2006 1:57:07 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: BlueStateDepression

Avoiding another Great Depression would justify changing quite a few "laws", I would hope.


186 posted on 03/20/2006 1:57:37 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

BASIC: Crossing the border without permission is a crime. It is illegal, it is against the law. You have cited you want to give these folks a path to citizenship so in effect you seek to reward criminals with citizenship opportunity.

I am all for folks that want to come here and melt into the pot with the rest of us. You know, folks that believe the most basic of ideals. Rule of Law.


187 posted on 03/20/2006 1:58:51 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: clawrence3

Who brought up going to the mods? You or me?


188 posted on 03/20/2006 1:59:24 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: Dead Corpse

I understand that you already answered - the "subparts" are for all those people I pinged (you know, the ones I named when you called "Bull Sh*T"?).


189 posted on 03/20/2006 1:59:51 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: BlueStateDepression

I brought up the idea: "if YOU want to go to the Mods, be my guest".


190 posted on 03/20/2006 2:00:45 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

I have a question for you clawrence. Where do native Americans fit into your vision of what this country is. You will say this is a nation made up of immigrants. To a degree I agree with that. I offer to you that folks born here in this nation seem to be dismissed by your ( and others) position when you say things of that nature.


191 posted on 03/20/2006 2:02:20 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: clawrence3

Why did you speak about Mods?


192 posted on 03/20/2006 2:02:52 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: clawrence3

You want to reward illegal behavior. For Mexicans at least.


193 posted on 03/20/2006 2:05:02 PM PST by mthom
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To: BlueStateDepression

Because I disagreed with your "judgment" that the following was not a personal attack (it really seems like I am just repeating myself here):

"Someday lawyers coming out of lawschool will actually give a care about the law, it sure seems you do not!"

Did you ever watch McEnroe playing tennis? He chose precisely when to go off on a tirade to the chair umpire. I was asking if you really wanted a ruling, even though I don't go on such tirades. Is that easier to understand now?


194 posted on 03/20/2006 2:06:50 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: VeniVidiVici
Didn't the gummint change the name of INS anyway? If so, you can now use it on the car as it is no longer the agency that controls immigration, but the illegals don't know that. They sell black baseball hats with INS on the front in Las Vegas and I wanted to buy and wear it, but my wife thinks I'll attract violent illegals.

I once sat at the counter in a hotel restaurant where all the workers were Mexicans. They were telling funny stories in Spanish, I undertood them and laughed. The two guys stared at me and then took off running out the back entrance. Thought I was INS, I guess. Adios muchachos!

195 posted on 03/20/2006 2:08:33 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: BlueStateDepression

I think native Americans were once immigrants as well. If you are so concerned about "folks born here in this nation" how about children of illegal immigrants who are deemed under the United States Constitution to be citizens?


196 posted on 03/20/2006 2:09:12 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Paulus Invictus
Didn't the gummint change the name of INS anyway? If so, you can now use it on the car as it is no longer the agency that controls immigration . . .

I would not be giving that particular legal advice myself.

197 posted on 03/20/2006 2:10:44 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: mthom

I just said I was fine with illegals being forced back to their country of origin before applying for something like the Bracero program again. Perhaps you are not reading my posts?


198 posted on 03/20/2006 2:12:04 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
I have the backbone to say I would like to see all immigration reduced. 50,000 on two-year visas would do the trick.

We are not the world's dumping ground.

199 posted on 03/20/2006 2:12:55 PM PST by Aznar5
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To: Aznar5

Why 50,000? Those are 50,000 jobs Americans are lining up at soup kitchens to do. Why not have ZERO, at least temporarily?


200 posted on 03/20/2006 2:16:25 PM PST by clawrence3
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